Around the NBA 2022 Playoffs: The Thread

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  1. wizenheimer

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    I'm sure a lot of knowledgeable Pels fans have noticed that:

    * in the playoffs, CJ averaged 1 more FGA than Ingram but 5 less points
    * that Ingram averaged 6.2 assists while CJ averaged 4,8 and is supposed to be the PG
    * that CJ was 10th on the team in TS% & winshares/48 in the series
    * that in the last 7 games (2nd play-in) CJ scored 152 points on 149 shots (21.7 pts on 21.3 shots)

    * that CJ, for the Pels:

    FG%: regular season .493....playoffs .392
    3ptFG%: regular season .394....playoffs .333
    TS%: regular season .580....playoffs .487
    Assist%: regular season .31.3%....playoffs 20.5%
    winshare/48: regular season .140....playoffs .045
    BPM: regular season +4.6....playoffs +0.6

    and I would think they aren't chortling so much about the trade, especially after studying CJ's salary the next 2 seasons
     
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    I think generically CJ is probably a little better, not by much though

    however Josh Hart at 13M/year >>> CJ at 33M/year
    and Dame + Hart >>> Dame + CJ
     
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    Yeah, I would say this is pretty much true of about 80% of all starting centers these days. Few are worth max contracts. Unless you can land a Jokic or Embiid, it is better to have a couple of different types s of centers. One who is really big and can defend the rim, and another who can shoot/defend away from the basket. You need both.
     
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    Conley is no slouch as a set up man. Zero blocks last night for a guy his size?
     
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    IMO, there are only 3 'big' men in the NBA worth a max deal: Jokic, Embiid, & Giannis. And Giannis is probably more wing than a big man. And both Jokic & Embiid can go out on the perimeter shooting three's and making passes

    the meteor of the three point line caused the extinction of dinosaur big men
     
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    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    So true.
    However, in basketball, like life itself, everything comes in cycles.
    The Center, will be a force again, someday.
    It will take more than a seven footer who weighs 180 pounds though.
     
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    Would you offer Zion the max contract?
     
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    No. Only a dumb team would.
     
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    No. Have to let him go to RFA. Could be a colossal mistake if he stays injured.
     
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    Who was worse in their respective series, CJ or Trae Young?
     
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    And I think this is much better for the league.
     
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    obviously Trae. Maybe one of the biggest drops between regular season and playoffs ever. From 28 points, 10 assists, 4 turnovers to 15 points, 6 assists, 6 turnovers; from a PER of 25.4 and a TS% of .603 to a PER of 5.0 and a TS% of .461; from a winshare/48 of +.181 and a BPM of +5.2 to a winshare/48 of 0f -.139 and a BPM of -8.1

    GEEEZUZ
     
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    Stotts will be "coaching" the Lakers. LeBron will love a coach who just lets him do what he wants.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He'll be launching 3s before you know it.
     
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    Honestly I could see this.

    It'll only be for a year, but I'd giggle.
     
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    The Memphis version of Conley, sure, but his role is pretty inconsistent now, and involvement of other players lives and dies by how Mitchell plays.

    I didn't watch the game, so I can't answer the lack of blocks. If they were spreading Gobert out on defense, it seems reasonable he never would have been in position to be driven on at the rim.
     
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    Phoenix and the Heat are good defensive teams. It's almost like that matters.
     
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    Up by 20 plus late in game and he’s still on floor.
    Thats typical Rivers
     
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    Two of last 3 season ended with wide open miss at the buzzer for the Utah Jazz.
     
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