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  1. riverman

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    To me Crowder allows Kevin Love to be a shooter and not a poor defender with limited touches...between Lebron, IT and Love there's a lot of points without sacrificing defense going the other way..Crowder is the X factor in this one...and Thomas will make teams pay for doubling either Lebron or Love...I think it's a pretty strong unit....they're in win now mode....not rebuild...this keeps Lebron interested
     
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    He'll still be a poor defender, though. Teams will put whomever he's defending into the pick and roll and force switches on the perimeter. I don't think Crowder really helps that. They had a good defender in Shumpert for the position and it didn't make Love any less of a liability. Crowder is a better player, but not game-changing better. He's a good role-player. Shumpert (or JR Smith) were average role-players.
     
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    same mike....same
     
    Cippy91, Aug 22, 2017
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    Kyrie is one of the worst clutch shooters with the game on the line according to an article I read...Thomas is fearless scoring in the clutch....personally I think the Cavs roster has more of an identity now than before.
     
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    That's certainly not his reputation, but I'm not sure I buy into "clutch stats" anyway. They're notoriously volatile and are subject to how one defines "clutch situations." It's possible that some players shy away from the big moment, but I think it's safe to say Irving isn't one of them considering the big shots he hit in the 2016 Finals.
     
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    Will Crowder or LeBron move to the 2? They have too many quality forwards on the roster unless either Love is traded or Crowder assumes the 6th Man role.
     
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    I'm assuming Crowder, since James, if anything, is best suited to moving up the positional spectrum (but can't due to Love's presence).
     
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    Kyrie is better than Thomas, but not Jae crowder and top three draft pick better. NO WAY! Not to mention zizic is no slouch either. I bet Lebron is excited, to not lose much at the pg position and add a stud wing defender.
     
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    There's an interesting take to this trade: Next summer Cavs can tell Lebron that if he stays, they will trade the BKN pick for another all-star (like they did with Wiggins).
     
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    yeah...I didn't write the article but his endgame shooting shocked me when I read it...not his strong pt...he is a great pt guard...no mistake
     
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    Why did Boston give so much when the Cavs had no leverage in the situation? I understand the IT situation... but damn. I wouldn't be happy if I was a boston fan on this trade. I also don't think Kyrie is all that great anyway.
     
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    Got to agree that Cleveland may have won that trade, which was not what anyone would have predicted given Kyrie's demands. Sure IT is a terrible (TERRIBLE) defender, but so is Kyrie, and Irving is also pretty injury-prone. Plus Thomas was the top "clutch scorer" in the NBA I seem to remember reading somewhere.
     
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    Ainge is kind of a dipshit sometimes. Just gonna put that out there.
     
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    Now Cleveland should try to swap Kevin Love for Marc Gasol and they'll have something.
     
    Rastapopoulos, Aug 22, 2017
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    that or Boogie as they then can be "all in" for ONE yr then they rebuild as Bron/Boogie/IT all leave nd they get huge capspace along with the Brooklyn pick
     
    Blazinaway, Aug 22, 2017
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    Wondering if IT's hip is an issue. That's a haul they just gave up for Kyrie
     
    illmatic99, Aug 22, 2017
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    The hip, the height, and the Brinks Truck.
     
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    And the age. 29 next off-season when he expects that Brinks truck.
     
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    So does this mean melo is coming to portland...the dominoes fall
     
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