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  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    It just doesn't make sense though. Let me almost lose the ball in an effort to regain my pivot foot.

    It just doesn't happen at any level of basketball.

    I'm glad traveling wasn't called on this instance.
     
  2. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    If it's "really easy" why isn't it a rampant problem?

    It's silly to think a player would risk possession of the ball to gain an extra step in a league that allows you to take three steps all the time.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    And I guarantee you no one will attempt it for fear of:

    Losing possession of the ball.

    A referee calling traveling and then, losing possession of the ball.

    Next to NFL football, NBA basketball is the sport that values possession the most.
     
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    So what constitutes “fumbling” it? He didnt drop the ball, the ball was basically in his hands the whole time in fact it seems strange that he can do that but if he really fumbles the ball and it bounces on the floor he cant pick it up because he already picked up his dribble.

    Also watch James harden, when he picks up his dribble early he will pretty frequently get the defender to go after the ball and when he knows the defender makes contact with the ball he’ll use that to regain his dribble, Chris Paul too.
     
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    @dviss1 Here's what I don't understand:
    Every couple of games or so a player stops dribbling, "loses control" of the ball, and has to yell at his teammates to get because he can't touch it, lest double dribble be called. Sometimes, these players touch the ball again and get called. Why?
     
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    For the record Im not just trying to argue with you for the kicks, just think the rule seems really strange and honestly this happens so infrequently I guess it doesnt matter.
     
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    Thats where I see the rule as weird too, if you terminate your dribble and lose control of it to the point it hits the floor you cant pick it up. If you just kind of fumble it you can still grab and re-establish a pivot foot, which probably only looks weird here because he’s moving while all of this is happening.
    I mean I get what dviss is saying and if thats the rule than thats the rule, just think its kind of a quirky one.
     
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    They mentioned during the game tonight that some refs came out and now said it was a travel...
     
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    They're not getting called for illegal dribble. The situation you're describing sounds like a player passing the ball and not being able to repossess it. That is Traveling because one may not pass to themselves.

    That's a completely different situation than losing control.
     
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    Not true. You may repossess the ball in this situation.

    If I completely terminate my dribble and due to momentum (jab step, rip through) I lose the ball, It is completely legal to repossess it.
     
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    I have had that called a double dribble, and Ive always seen it called that way too.
     
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    You sir have NO damn idea what you are talking about! I don't care if you have 200 white and black striped shirts in your closet..... you can't tell me thats not a travel! In my opinion, thats damn near a first down!
     
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    The former Hispanic Raising Panic raises a good question. Dviss, how many black-and-white striped shirts have they issued you? I mean after you got out.
     
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    Yet refs get calls wrong all the time.
     
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    That's not a good argument. They're still better equipped than anyone else. You're also changing the narrative. Getting a call wrong occasionally is going to happen.
    By letter of the law, it's not traveling.

    Whether or not it should have been called is a different story that one could argue both sides of.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    You had a sorry ref. Those exist.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    No you haven't. Only if the player dribbles again. If they don't...
     
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    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...putes-nbra-says-wizards-bradley-beal-traveled

    "While in some cases a fumble at the end of a dribble on the gather can be retrieved, that is not what happened on this play," McCutchen told ESPN. "Bradley Beal gathers the ball and takes two steps, but then loses control of the ball. Once he has lost control after taking the two steps, he must regain control and pass or shoot before taking another step in order to be legal. Since he does not regain control until another step, the play is a travel."
     
  19. TorturedBlazerFan

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    Well, I have but if this is just going to divulge into questioning what my experiences are vs your's I don't think that's going to get either of us very far. :dunno:

    Anyways thanks for your explanations, always good to get your perspective on these sort of things.
     
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