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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Why? We get better in the short run and gain a lot of flexibility as soon as next year. Trade Davis and we'd have a Full MLE this year.
     
    BonesJones, Jul 2, 2017
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    Good point, I forgot you could do that.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Me. I'd much rather trade Crabbe. Turner can at least handle the ball and play defense.

    I'd rather send Crabbe for Lin/RHJ

    Leonard/Aminu/Davis for Monroe/Hawes.

    Dame/Lin/Bazz
    CJ/Turner/Patty
    Harkless/RHJ/Layman
    Vonleh/Collins/Swanigan
    Nurk/Monroe/Hawes
     
    Natebishop3, Jul 2, 2017
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    Schilly Well-Known Member

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    That's a terrible trade for Portland... unless we are tanking for Lotto.
     
    Schilly, Jul 2, 2017
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    That is not enough to include Vonleh and a pick even if it's protected.
     
    TBpup, Jul 2, 2017
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    Let me go a bit further here..
    Vonleh > Booker
    Turner = Lin

    The savings aren't worth Aminu, Leonard and a 1st round pick. That's just ludicrously desperate to only save $17 mil
     
    Schilly, Jul 2, 2017
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    RipCityDSCPL Could be worse, at least it's not Lonzo.

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    According to the Trade Machine the Nets would be over the Luxury Tax threshold by $11,353,661.
     
    RipCityDSCPL, Jul 2, 2017
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    I don't think they want Turner.

    BKN: Crabbe, Vonleh, Leonard, Diez rights, and 2018 first (top 8 protected).

    POR: Lin and Booker.

    Then I'd try to flip Booker and Aminu to PHX for Chandler and Jones Jr

    Dame / Lin / Napier
    CJ / Turner / Connaughton
    Hark / Jones Jr / Layman
    Collins / Davis / Swanigan
    Nurk / Chandler

    Cap savings galore.
     
    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94, Jul 2, 2017
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Korver 3 yr 22 mil with cavs
     
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    Steal of a deal
     
    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94, Jul 2, 2017
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    Man. Olshey played himself for a sap last summer. But in all honestly, it's better than having money and not having any potential FA. :dunno:
     
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    That enough players I would give up 1st though.
     
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    FIFY
     
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    Nate #itsokaytobewhite #wakandaforever BANNED

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    Learn the game, then post.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Doesn't me knowing a 1 year contract that has zero negative impact on a teams future cap space is different than what NO did mean I know the game?
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    If we're adding Lin, I'd rather have Crabbe than Turner. Lin would be the 3rd ball handler.
     
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    And then spend 10 mill of cap space on who? After losing out two best defenders despite your belief Aminu sucks on defense, and lose lineup variation with Aminu and ET who both play multiple positions. And Vonleh who is a Pf/C combo.

    Essentially we destroy all of our depth and versatility for Lin and 10 mill in salary which would land us someone like Ed Davis or some other journeymen big man. 10 mill doesn't get you a good enough player to justify losing 3 rotation players and a pick.
     
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    I loathe Aminu, but I still agree with you on this being a HORRIBLE trade proposal. Vonleh and a draft pick are worth far more on their own, than the garbage return we get in that proposal.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    What are you talking about? They have nothing to lose by spending $23M on Redick. They'd otherwise have to pay it to reach the floor anyway.

    In retrospect, we should've gave Turner a $24M contract for a single year, instead of $17Mp.y. for 4 years.

    I've advocated this for us and other teams in the past. If no better option, spend all the cap space by overpaying players to play there for one year. It's cap space that would otherwise go unused, and you can use them as expiring contracts which would have value in trades. If not, they come off the books the next year and doesn't affect anything. That player could also be grateful and want to stay, signing on a lesser deal the next year when teams actually need the cap space.
     
    BonesJones, Jul 2, 2017
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Lmao....

    Vonleh and a draft pick is about as valuable as Turners and Leonard's contracts are unvaluable. Can't get teams to take that shit for free. So we get two veterans that are better backup options then anyone we have, while getting rid of those messy contracts. Great deal.
     
    BonesJones, Jul 2, 2017
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