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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by SlyPokerDog, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. trailblazer18

    trailblazer18 Well-Known Member

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    That was laugh out loud awesome!
     
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    No other center and he still only played 22 minutes. (3-11, 7 boards and 5 turnovers, 2 fouls)
     
  3. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Unless Embiid can get, and stay, healthy, they may regret trading Noel instead of Okafor. I'm not a big fan of +/- stats (too many variables), but if the sample size is big enough, they start to become meaningful. For the season, PHI is +4.2 points/48 when Embiid is on the floor. When Okafor is on the court, they are -15 points/48. That's nearly a 20 point per game swing between those two players who play the same position.

    BNM
     
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    Yeah at least Noel brings energy. I admit I wanted Okafor over Noel for us because I thought it was important for us to get a wide body. (More of an enforcer) Thankfully we got a wide body who has energy instead. (At least so far)
     
  5. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    PHI management are perennial idiots.
     
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    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

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    Yogi Ferrell:

    vs. Blazers: 9-11 = 82.%
    vs. Everyone else in 16-17: 17-53 = 32.1%

    :sigh
     
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    Again when he plays us look whose guarding him. I'll give you a clue his initials are DL

    There's a reason why our starting PG is by far the worst starting defender in the whole league
     
  8. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    2nd worst. Isaiah Thomas is pretty well understood to be the worst defensive player in the league.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Damnit, Tunchi! You gotta fact check, bruh!
     
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    True that's fair
     
  11. Pinwheel1

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    Seems a little embellished since he was 4-9 the last time he played us.
     
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    On one hand I was going to say maybe Okafor's value was low but the remembered they got Justin Anderson plus a top-18 protected Dallas pick which is not much at all. Is this true that the protection on that Dallas pick says that if it is top 18 this year, Phila get 2017 and 2018 secound rounders? That is horrible value if true.
     
  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yes, that's correct (according to Zach Lowe). So, they basically traded Nerlens Noel for two 2nd round picks.

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  14. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Trust the process...........................
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Don't confuse the process with the poor draft picks. Hinke got fired, so the Noel trade is not part of that process.
     
  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    If anything, Bryan Colangelo is proving even more incompetent than Sam Hinkie. He completely devalued both Noel and Okafor by shopping them starting in June. Then he basically kept Noel off the court for nearly the first two months of the season as punishment for calling the situation "silly", further decreasing his value. Now, instead of having a logjam three deep at center, they have a disgruntled, unmotivated Jahlil Okafor.

    He completely mishandled the situation and even though he wasn't the one who drafted Okafor, he overvalued him as he was still treating him like he was worth a high lottery pick simply because that's where he'd been drafted. The bizarre thing is, that if ANY of the rumors were true, he turned down more for Okafor than what he got for Noel. I know Noel is an expiring, but they held his Bird Rights and were so far under the salary floor, they could have easily re-signed him. And, he's the better player.

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    The only sense I can make out of them moving Noel instead of Okafor is health...they may not trust his knees...he's been really injury prone
     
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    Yeah but the picks were not bad, The drafts were. The consensus pick at 2 or 3 that year was Okafor or Russell. And the Noel lottery was terrible. Sure you can always find better players from Europe that are not scouted properly like Porzingis or the Greek Freak, but to me the process has some flaws, and the biggest is not all drafts are strong.
     
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    Zeke2 has actually gotten some props for his defensive effort this year.
     
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    So have all there center has injury prone.
     
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