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Around the NBA Playoffs - Round Two

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by KingSpeed, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. riverman

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    Budenholzer had a really bad season...some say he mailed it in...Terry Stotts is a coach who needs one more piece minimum roster wise to make his system work....A young Ray Allen type sharpshooter...give him that guy and he'll win a lot of games.
     
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    Give me that guy and Dame and I'd win a lot of games saying "go play now"
     
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    What coach wouldn’t...? You have Dame, CJ and a young Ray Allen? Even I could coach them too a few wins.
    I agree They are a piece or two away.
     
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    Lol.. Budenholzer mailed it in? Look at the pieces he had... you guys blame the roster to defend Stotts, but then you'll blame Budenholzer when he was working with THAT?

    Makes no sense.
     
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    What piece is it that you speak of?.. And how exactly do we acquire him given how Olshey has messed up our roster?
     
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    I read about it in a couple of articles but hey....they're not your opinions so this is your standard reaction...go figure....sometimes coaches quit on teams just like players do...sometimes coaches burn out.....his results in Atlanta weren't stellar in the end. As to who that young Ray Allen sharpshooter is that we need...I have no idea who it is. I don't think our roster is as messed up as you do Bones...I like Stotts and Olshey...let's not have that conversation again..you don't like them. One article I read said coach Bud has lost value over the last couple seasons....talk about a team nobody wants to play for....it's the Hawks....even hometown D Howard bailed after one year under coach Bud....who has essentially quit on his team while under contract...not a good look
     
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    So much misinformation.

    His results in Atlanta with real players were stellar. Without real players, they were crap. It's ironic that you can't point to his roster as a problem but you can defend Stotts that way. I don't think our roster is messed up at all, I think it's better than most Stotts-defenders do, as I think the problem is coaching, not roster. Also, Dwight Howard got traded... he didn't bail.

    You're sitting here acting as if the opinion that "Budenholzer quit on his team" is fact, because you read it somewhere. It's this narrative that's not based in any substance, but since it could htpothetically be a Stotts replacement, stuff has to be made up to Bud's detriment.

    In my first post to you, I was just pointing out the obvious irony which I guess you didn't see.
     
  8. riverman

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    I read about it Bones....stop with the snark please....I'm not sitting here acting like anything...I read he lost value THIS season and he didn't make it work with Howard....he asked to be let out of his contract and then bailed on a Phoenix interview...nothing to do with Stotts or you or me....several coaches have been hired since he's been available...apparently I'm not the only one questioning his value in the present....he had a few great years ...last couple, not so much.
    If my post doesn't interest you...feel free to not engage it. and don't put intentions in my posts..that's baiting
     
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    A wise man once said, "don't believe everything you read". How did he not make it work with Howard? They traded him for cap relief because they knew they were gonna be trash this season. Several coaches have been hired... so? There's other good coaching candidates out there.

    I just ask that you try to see the irony in people that defend Stotts because our roster is flawed and then trash Budenholzer for his coaching with a roster made up almost entirely of G-league level players. It's ironic.
     
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    I’m of the opinion Stotts does not deserve to be fired yet, I think NO should be. However, in the Pelican series’ either Stotts was very badly out coached, or the Players either couldn’t execute the game plan or were ignoring him. None of those options sound good. My best argument to get rid of Stotts now would be that maybe the team just needs a new messenger and his voice doesn’t resonate the way it used to. I personally believe Stotts is a pretty good coach, not a great coach but a solid NBA coach they could do much worse.
     
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    His game management is bad, and it shows in the playoffs, just like it does with Dwayne Casey.
     
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    another wise man said reading is food for thought....being condescending towards people who aren't in agreement though...that isn't so wise...I didn't like seeing a coach ask to go find a job somewhere else while under contract....if that's trashing him..that's my biggest beef....Stotts hasn't done that..and I like Stotts and quite a bit of our roster..there's no irony in that...it's my view. You post a million trade ideas and I don't reply to most of them telling you you're without a clue....basically you just don't need to give a like to a post you don't like. A wise man once said it's best to walk away and not engage in things you don't value or respect.
     
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    I think Stotts and Casey are great coaches...both lost a playoff series...15 coaches do every year..lot of things factor into that and most can be learned from
     
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    Not liking a coach for trying to find a job elsewhere while under contract is totally understandable. That's completely different than blaming him for not doing enough with that shitty roster while defending Stotts as if our roster is shit. You don't think our roster is the problem, but most Stotts-defenders do. I'm not saying you don't have a clue, I'm just asking for you to see the irony in that.

    Also, I'm not going to assume Bud quit just because an "article" claims he did. People claim a lot of stuff and difference between a fan and someone who reports on a local team is that the reporter has a platform and usually, a few more iffy sources. So I'm not going to hold it against Bud that he couldn't make that situation work.
     
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    I run out of words on this Celtics team. They have 2 wings that can play defense, rebound and runs the break. Also a Center in Horford who can run the break as Point/Center. Two issues the Blazers don’t have right now.
     
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    The difference is the Celtics star players are versatile wings who can play multiple positions and like to pass and play defense... the Blazers on the other hand are going all in on 2 undersized ISO ball chuckers who don’t play defense... hopefully after next season Neil will realize what many of us already see today... that Dame and CJ need to be broken up
     
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    Dame & CJ play defense. Our team defense was great this year.
     
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    The Celtics with no All-star destroying the Cavs.
     
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    Horford was an All-Star.
     
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    And Horford is playing like it. He's awesome. Top 5 big in the league.
     

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