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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Good for Oakley
     
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    Defense is reactionary. If the ball is one pass away, deny you're assignment. Two passes away means have a foot in the paint to be in position to provide helpside defense. That's reactionary, dependent upon where the ball is on the court. If you're two passes away and the on-ball defend gets beat, the right (reactionary) thing to do is to provide help. If the ball handler that you help onto passes it to your guy, the next closest weakside defender closes out on your original assignment, giving you time to recover to his original assignment if the ball is swung. That's all reactionary.

    One-on-one, if a player tries to drive at your left shoulder, you react by sliding left to take away his drive. If he pulls up, you react by trying to contest his shot. It's reactionary. I don't know what you were taught that wasn't reactionary.

    We can address how I'm "wrong" about offense after this, lol.
     
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    I was taught to funnel a player to where I wanted him to go. I was taught to ATTACK offenses. Not react to them. The offense is supposed to react to the Defense.

    Hence the saying:

    "Take what the Defense gives you".
     
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    Hes going to be good
     
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    ...but not on defense...
     
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    No defensively...thats going to be ugly
     
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    Boris Diaw signed... with a French Team!

     
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    ^ I could see that hurting Utah as much as losing Gordy. At least Hood can pick up the slack for the latter.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    In first season with Thunder, George sets sights on capturing MVP
    https://www.thescore.com/news/1351741


    A reason the Thunder might not be as good as they look on paper. So you have a noncommittal player, in George, whose personal goal for his, most likely, 1 season in OKC, is to win mvp. And this is playing next to Westbrook, who selfishly plays for numbers to get an mvp. Could get interesting. Two guys not playing team ball: just looking to get theirs.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Did you ever funnel a player back to the locker room? That would be cool, because then you could play 4 on 5.
     
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    Yeah, you can attack offenses, and try to funnel them. But you're still going to react to where the ball goes.

    Offense controls the ball.
    Defense reacts to the ball.
    It's pretty simple basis. Just because you can attack and funnel offenses doesn't mean defense isn't reactionary. There's a reason why one player can influence an offense much more than a defense, and why a offense is so much more valuable in a guard.

    If things were equal, Tony Allen would be as valuable as James Harden.
     
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    Tony Allen has been more valuable than James Harden overall in the playoffs, I'd argue.
     
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