Ashley Lelie to ATL, TJ Duckett to WAS, 3rd or 4th Rounder to DEN.

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    Snyder way overpaid Randle El. What was the deal worth $50 millionish?Way to much for an above average WR.
     
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    How is a 3rd and a 4th round an overpay for a former first round pick that has shown that he can produce when givin the chance?He's a TD machine.And for whomever else replied to my comment about Warrick Dunn. If you don;t think he'll get more then last years 3 touchdowns now that Duckett is gone, you're crazy.
     
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    Randle El got 30 million. And it's funny how now he's aboe average, and when he was a Steeler he was one of the best :rolleyes:We hate to draft busts, that's why we sign and trade for proven young guys like Randle El, Lloyd, Duckett, Archuleta, Carter... It's only overpaying if the guy you sign sucks.We still have cap room, Snyder knows where he's going. We will win games, especially with the best coaching staff in the league.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Aug 22 2006, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The best part is I have Dunn on my NFLC fantasy team..and I am sure he can get some goal line carrys now. Woohoo.</div>I got him too B)Griffith may get more goalline touches than last year, but Duckett had a lot of goalline carries to replace, I'm sure Dunn will be getting a lot more than 3 TDs. Ducket had 8 TDs that will need to be "replaced."
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Aug 23 2006, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Randle El got 30 million. And it's funny how now he's aboe average, and when he was a Steeler he was one of the best :rolleyes:We hate to draft busts, that's why we sign and trade for proven young guys like Randle El, Lloyd, Duckett, Archuleta, Carter... It's only overpaying if the guy you sign sucks.We still have cap room, Snyder knows where he's going. We will win games, especially with the best coaching staff in the league.</div>Never ever heard anyone say Randel El was one of the best Steelers lol. Oh and Lloyd and Carter arent proven to do anythin positive. Carter has proven he cannot handle bein a DE in the 4-3 scheme (He'll probably break his back with one more season of that). Lloyd has proven that he will not attempt to catch a ball if he hears footsteps. Im a 49er fan, I know all about those two; they were both very overpaid.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Aug 23 2006, 06:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How is a 3rd and a 4th round an overpay for a former first round pick that has shown that he can produce when givin the chance?He's a TD machine.And for whomever else replied to my comment about Warrick Dunn. If you don;t think he'll get more then last years 3 touchdowns now that Duckett is gone, you're crazy.</div>A third and fourth rounder for a one year rental at Runningback since hes in the last year of his deal? Not to mention that while he was a first rounder, he has not lived up to the expectations. He was drafted because many people thought he was the next Jerome Bettis and instead ran for 380 yards and a 3.1 YPA despite playing behind a solid O-line last year. PS: Combs, those touchdowns/touches will likely end up going to the teams 3rd round pick Jerious Norwood. Keep an eye out for him. Fact of the matter is that Dunn is a 31 year old speed back who only weighs 180 lbs, not exactly the ideal Goal Line back.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 23 2006, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Never ever heard anyone say Randel El was one of the best Steelers lol. Oh and Lloyd and Carter arent proven to do anythin positive. Carter has proven he cannot handle bein a DE in the 4-3 scheme (He'll probably break his back with one more season of that). Lloyd has proven that he will not attempt to catch a ball if he hears footsteps. Im a 49er fan, I know all about those two; they were both very overpaid.</div>Did you not see the dumb thread in the Redskins forum all dedicated to Lloyd? He ducks once and everyone thinks he is scared. He has great hands and I hope to death that he has over 40 catches this year, just so everyone will shut up about how inconsistent he is.Carter hasn't proven himself yet because he's been with the Browns. It is very hard to prove yourself with one of the shittiest teams out there, but doesn't that remind you of, well the 49ers? Wait, isn't that the place where they had how many starting QB's? Oh and isn't it the place where the most inconsistent reciever is coming from? [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 23 2006, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Aug 23 2006, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Randle El got 30 million. And it's funny how now he's aboe average, and when he was a Steeler he was one of the best :rolleyes:We hate to draft busts, that's why we sign and trade for proven young guys like Randle El, Lloyd, Duckett, Archuleta, Carter... It's only overpaying if the guy you sign sucks.We still have cap room, Snyder knows where he's going. We will win games, especially with the best coaching staff in the league.</div>Never ever heard anyone say Randel El was one of the best Steelers lol. Oh and Lloyd and Carter arent proven to do anythin positive. Carter has proven he cannot handle bein a DE in the 4-3 scheme (He'll probably break his back with one more season of that). Lloyd has proven that he will not attempt to catch a ball if he hears footsteps. Im a 49er fan, I know all about those two; they were both very overpaid.</div>Carter did have that breakout season. But after that, he's sucked and gotten worse.Lloyd is just overrated. The Spud Webb of football, flashy but nothing else really.But at the rate that contracts are increasing, they aren't complete overpays yet.
     
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    This is so gay
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (unstable @ Aug 23 2006, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is so gay</div>I don't see how. I'm thinking I like the deal for all 3 teams involved. Atlanta obviously didn't need Duckett anymore. The Broncos had to cut ties with Lelie. And the picks the Broncos got are a bonus if Lelie wasn't going to play anyway.I think I like it the most for Atlanta though. I'm just not sure how good Lelie is going to be on the Falcons. I've had him on my NFLC team as well so hopefully good things.
     
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    Lelie is just one more target that wont get the ball. Duckett was damn good on the goalline or for picking up the first down.Im just a little bitter right now.
     
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    Duckett has proven what? Running 1-3 yards at a time? Sheesh, HoFer. He's a BUST.I'm quoting this "We hate to draft busts, that's why we sign and trade for proven young guys like Randle El, Lloyd, Duckett, Archuleta, Carter... " just so ya know. Didn't want to click quote though.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Aug 22 2006, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TCOF @ Aug 22 2006, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh snap that kicks ass!If somehow someway, the Skins finish with the worst record and get the 1st pick, which would then revert to the Broncos, I will laugh in the face of my friend who is a Skins fan, and I will laugh at all the Skins fans here.</div>It's sounding more like its just a Third Rounder to Denver, but that would be insane if that actually happened. The Jets and Broncos would own all their first day picks. [​IMG] PS: The Punisher, still say that Clinton Portis is fine? Because this move should raise a major red flag to that stance.</div>Man they OVERPAID for Duckett. That was extremely too much. I wouldn't give a 3rd at all. I would give a 4th but hey, Atlanta knew the Redskins was in the market for a back. So the price went up...too much!And you're right. I think I'm going to have to drop Portis from my fantasy league. I don't know if I should be happy or sad about it. To have a chance to win in the fantasy league or seeing Duckett instead of Portis...I think I'm HAPPY!
     
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    [/quote]Your kidding right? Our owner doesn't build through the draft, he builds smart through veterans and young FA's. That's a smart man getting good young players by trading away draft picks.[/quote]Your kidding right? You build a championship team through the draft. I can't remember a team winning a Superbowl without building through the draft.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 23 2006, 05:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 23 2006, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 23 2006, 02:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Redskins have the most retarded owner and front office in NFL history, I hope they suck.</div>Your kidding right? Our owner doesn't build through the draft, he builds smart through veterans and young FA's. That's a smart man getting good young players by trading away draft picks.</div>Your kiddin right? He throws around bad contracts every year and it gets his team nowhere. The last 4 teams that have gone to the Superbowl are good examples of teams that built through the draft (Eagles, Steelers, Seahawks, Patriots). Snyder is a retard. He needs to learn that the draft is how you build a Superbowl team, not overpayin decent players in FA. He needs to keep his picks, not give them away for trash.</div>TOTALLY AGREED!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TCOF @ Aug 23 2006, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Snyder way overpaid Randle El. What was the deal worth $50 millionish?Way to much for an above average WR.</div>Hold on there. Above average? Too much credit there. He's at best average.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Aug 23 2006, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How is a 3rd and a 4th round an overpay for a former first round pick that has shown that he can produce when givin the chance?He's a TD machine.And for whomever else replied to my comment about Warrick Dunn. If you don;t think he'll get more then last years 3 touchdowns now that Duckett is gone, you're crazy.</div>That is overpaying for Duckett. Regardless if he's was a number one pick. If he was so good he'd be the featured back. Especially since Dunn is getting up there in age. And you're right he is a TD machine. But it's Dunn who gets it in the red zone, which makes it a lot easier for Duckett to get those TD.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 23 2006, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 23 2006, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Never ever heard anyone say Randel El was one of the best Steelers lol. Oh and Lloyd and Carter arent proven to do anythin positive. Carter has proven he cannot handle bein a DE in the 4-3 scheme (He'll probably break his back with one more season of that). Lloyd has proven that he will not attempt to catch a ball if he hears footsteps. Im a 49er fan, I know all about those two; they were both very overpaid.</div>Did you not see the dumb thread in the Redskins forum all dedicated to Lloyd? He ducks once and everyone thinks he is scared. He has great hands and I hope to death that he has over 40 catches this year, just so everyone will shut up about how inconsistent he is.Carter hasn't proven himself yet because he's been with the Browns. It is very hard to prove yourself with one of the shittiest teams out there, but doesn't that remind you of, well the 49ers? Wait, isn't that the place where they had how many starting QB's? Oh and isn't it the place where the most inconsistent reciever is coming from? [​IMG]</div>If your #2 receiver is only shooting to catch over 40 balls (which should be more like 60+), you're going to have a very long miserable year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Aug 23 2006, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 23 2006, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Aug 23 2006, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Randle El got 30 million. And it's funny how now he's aboe average, and when he was a Steeler he was one of the best :rolleyes:We hate to draft busts, that's why we sign and trade for proven young guys like Randle El, Lloyd, Duckett, Archuleta, Carter... It's only overpaying if the guy you sign sucks.We still have cap room, Snyder knows where he's going. We will win games, especially with the best coaching staff in the league.</div>Never ever heard anyone say Randel El was one of the best Steelers lol. Oh and Lloyd and Carter arent proven to do anythin positive. Carter has proven he cannot handle bein a DE in the 4-3 scheme (He'll probably break his back with one more season of that). Lloyd has proven that he will not attempt to catch a ball if he hears footsteps. Im a 49er fan, I know all about those two; they were both very overpaid.</div>Carter did have that breakout season. But after that, he's sucked and gotten worse.Lloyd is just overrated. The Spud Webb of football, flashy but nothing else really.But at the rate that contracts are increasing, they aren't complete overpays yet.</div>Chang,I would agree with you that because of the rates always increasing that you can overpay from time to time.But there is no way that Archeleta, Randle El, and Lloyd should have gotten that much money...There's no way they are worth it. Their numbers don't show it. If Archeleta wasn't known to be injury prone then you can make a case.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 23 2006, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 23 2006, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Never ever heard anyone say Randel El was one of the best Steelers lol. Oh and Lloyd and Carter arent proven to do anythin positive. Carter has proven he cannot handle bein a DE in the 4-3 scheme (He'll probably break his back with one more season of that). Lloyd has proven that he will not attempt to catch a ball if he hears footsteps. Im a 49er fan, I know all about those two; they were both very overpaid.</div>Did you not see the dumb thread in the Redskins forum all dedicated to Lloyd? He ducks once and everyone thinks he is scared. He has great hands and I hope to death that he has over 40 catches this year, just so everyone will shut up about how inconsistent he is.Carter hasn't proven himself yet because he's been with the Browns. It is very hard to prove yourself with one of the shittiest teams out there, but doesn't that remind you of, well the 49ers? Wait, isn't that the place where they had how many starting QB's? Oh and isn't it the place where the most inconsistent reciever is coming from? [​IMG]</div>Everyone knows he is scared. Im not even talkin about that play, I never think of that play when I say he's a pussy. I think about when he alligator arms passes right to him when there is a safety behind him, like what he did in the endzone in Chicago last year. Carter has been with the Browns? Wtf are you talkin about lol. He hasnt proven himself not cuz the team he was on retard, but cuz he could never stay healthy before last season when he was moved to OLB. Oh and yeah thats the place. I can tell already you think you know more about football than you actually do, keep these retarded posts comin buddy [​IMG]
     

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