Asshole Dolan fires

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  1. NYR Fan

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    Today has nothing to do with the coach, and everything to do with a joke of an owner. Firing everyone as we were on the edge of winning and doing big things. Forget how one feels about the coach, he's good - he stinks - he's in the middle, whatever. Today is about a joke of an owner.
     
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    I don't disagree, but I wonder what that means. Dolan went rogue and wrote the letter and JD/Gorton opposed and got fired for it? The other way around? Dolan was angry because we didn't have a goon? I don't know the connection, but it seems to be a big coincidence if no connection.
     
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    Like I wrote - Dolan is an unprofessional disgrace, and JD/Gorton ran away from his nonsense, and he fired them. That is a good look for future top people wanting to work for him, sure he'll get the best of the best - joke. It's the same nonsense he pulls with the Knicks. He is a disgrace, and 10000000000% the issue.

    According to Frank Seravalli, “Sources say that #NYR president John Davidson and GM Jeff Gorton scurried to distance themselves from the team statement that was issued on Tuesday night, telling other executives that they did not know it was in the works until after it was released.”
     
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    Really idiotic, rash stuff from Dolan either way. And i don't doubt that Drury will be a good GM in time, but Gorton was doing a solid job. Did Dolan really think the team would be a SC cup contender in year 3 with the average age the youngest in the league and goalie who's played 1/2 a season overall? Gotta be something more behind the scenes.
     
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    Dreger wrote this:

    I’m told the firing of Gorton and Davidson by NYR is coincidental and not related to the statement issued yesterday related to Tom Wilson. Another source says ownership felt the Rangers underachieved this season.


    Which is even more of a disgrace. Underachieved - YOU WROTE A LETTER 3 YEARS AGO SAYING REBOOT AND PATIENCE AND THEN FIRE THE PRES AND GM IN YEAR 3 WHEN THEY ARE ON THE EDGE OF BIG THINGS - UNREAL.

    And JD was here for like 2 years, and you fire a franchise icon. Are you serious. Dolan is a disgrace.
     
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    Ok, well that at least explains it, even though it doesn't make it any less moronic on Dolans part.
     
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    Friedman just tweeted:

    Chris Drury will be President & GM of NYR.

    So you fire JD and Gorton to give everything to unproven and untested Drury. Are you serious!!!

    The youngest team in the NHL, a ton of talent, stocked system, ton of cap space, 3 or 4 moves this summer away from being big time, and you fire the Pres and GM for an unproven untested guy.
     
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    You're fucking delusional. Seriously. Out of your mind. Tell us how the season would have been any different with the proposed lineup of LFA on the 1st, Kakko on the 2nd and Gauthier (GAUTHIER!!!!) on the 3rd line and then shoe horn Kravtsov on one of the top three lines. You have no clue how to develop talent.
    Let's stack the entire lineup with 18-20 year old kids and run them up against teams like Boston, the Islanders, the Flyers, the Capitals. Watch them get their heads kicked in every game and then marvel at how much they would have developed in that scenario. Get a fucking clue dude.
    You have got to protect your young highly talented players as much as possible and challenge them in the right moments. This season was still a success by finishing 5th. Young players got valuable ice time in important situations and showed their talents. Several young players showed improvement this year...Buch, Fox (norris trophy finalist if not winner), Lindgren, Miller, Kakko. Hell, even Strome had a very good season.
    Did Gorton and JD fuck up by not adding some grit and toughness, yeah. But last time I checked none of the injuries these guys are dealing with have any long term concerns. They have the off-season to address those needs.
    The bottom line is Dolan is a fucking tool. He's a hack who has been DISMAL as a professional sports team owner. He garners no respect from insiders and outsiders alike in either sport. He is a punch line. He should do the Rangers, Knicks and entire MSG family a favor and throw himself out of a window.
     
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    Agreed. Maybe also because they were eliminated from playoff contention at the same time but I think that is just coincidence.
     
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    Spot on Grey. Hate the coach, that is fine, but today has NOTHING to do with the coach. That has already been proven with all the reports out there. Today is about out of control impatient awful owner impulsive Dolan...period.
     
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    WTF
     
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    Drury will probably end up keeping DQ with the BU connection, which i don't really have an opinion on one way or the other as next year will kind of be the make or break for Quinn. Maybe Messier becomes the President. Wow.
     
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    Definitely. Could the Rangers do better with a different head coach? Certainly but, I don't think he did anything less than what was asked or expected of him. But to say (by way of firing them) that Gorton and JD didn't do a very good job loading the organization with talent across every facet of the team is just complete lunacy.
     
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    Never liked Gorton and don’t care about JD. They assembled a good young team but they are too easy to play against. Hey Jeff and JD don’t let the door hit you in the ##%#%%#
     
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    This is a bad day for the Rangers. No other way to spin it. Need to gather my thoughts first, but it just sucks all around.

    If you believe Incarcerated Bob on Twitter - and he has nailed insider Rangers info before, like Zucc's condition and the Igor car accident - JG was a dead man walking after the 2 recent Isles games. The Tony D situation was also not sitting well with Dolan (literally paying the guy to sit home). JD found out, and gave him the "he goes I go" speech. Dolan fired them both immediately.

    This honestly does add up - not saying I agree with it just yet, and I'm sure more will come out, but it makes a bit more sense than some reactionary table flip. Gorton, for all the good he has done, has also had some head scratcher moves and left some huge positional and toughness holes open on the roster. Meanwhile JD has been back here about 10 mins and didnt deserve to go out like this.

    Big thanks to both of these guys for getting us back on the right track. Hopefully Drury can pick up where they left off and finish building this thing.
     
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    Great players do not necessarily make great, or even good executives. At least Drury has held an assistant GM position with the Rangers the last few years. But Messier as team President? uhhhhhh, can I see your post-playing resume please?
     
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    Drury is GM and Pres. No Messier. Totally unproven and untested.
     
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    I appreciate your thoughtful approach, but your first line is the line. No way to spin this as positive. Dolan is a child, you see it with how he runs the Knicks, and the child didn't like something so he fired everyone. That's it.

    A franchise icon who has been here less than 2 years. A GM who has done a very good job bringing in a ton of talent for the future. And this is after Dolan himself wrote a letter saying patience and reboot.

    He is an impulsive fool - period.
     
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    Right, as of now he is(Drury) but i think they will split that off being he's new to either position. That would be alot on his plate right away. May not be MM but i don't think Drury stays also as president long term.
     
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    JD I don't understand for sure. Unless he did say if Jeff goes, I go. I don't see Quinn staying. He sucks. This is pretty weird. I'm sure more will come out. This is NY. Dolan usually leaves the hockey team alone. Considering the young talent assembled on this team I'm not sure why a move was necessary. They deserved a chance to fix more of the team for one more year. Who knows, maybe Dolan wanted Geertsen called up and they said no and he flipped out. Something is definitely off here.
     

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