At #23, Blazers take Kris Murray.

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  1. Ed O

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    What are you talking about?

    Kris:
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    Keegan:
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    Points: Keegan led 23.5 to 20.2
    Rebounds: Keegan led 8.7 to 7.9
    2p%: Keegan led 62.1% to 58.3%

    I think you're confused or not reading the stats correctly.

    Edit: sorry for being so abrupt. I replied before I saw the other replied. Hard to keep up tonight *hugs*
     
  2. Chris Craig

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    If there are brothers in the league, you can bet the Blazers will get the least of each of them.
     
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    Seems logical to me. One dude was a top 5 pick and the other was 23 :lol:
     
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    None of that means Kris can't be a good player though. Solid pickup.
     
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    i've said before the right move for guys in late first round is to go after upperclassmen who have some sorta pedigree in college.

    just don't think murray has NBA chops, but it is what it is.
     
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    I wonder if Billups saw a Tayshaun Prince clone with Murray?
     
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    I'm pretty sure I saw an Ed O poll spelling Damian Lillard > Damien
     
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    2 assists per game on almost 16 shots a game. He has the ball, quite apparently, but 2 assists does not suggest that he is good at passing it for buckets. Also, 7.9 rebounds at his height is kind of meh to me. Not terrible by any stretch, but nothing screams that he's a good rebounder.
     
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    When you want to do a troll petition, you have to give some indication it's not serious. Spelling Lillard's and Sharpe's first names incorrectly should have been an indication to anyone who knows me that it wasn't a serious petition.
     
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    The scouting report I read said he was an extremely good rebounder and a very accurate passer...good passer...in Iowa he was the go to guy his jr year so he wasn't a distributer...he's 6'9..report said he was NBA ready. I saw him play maybe 3 games so I'm going on scouting reports. I think he's a total player with good instincts
     
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    Twins in the NBA and NFL, leagues with a bigger emphasis on physicality, have pretty much all put up comparable levels of play.

    In the NBA, the Lopez brothers are the only ones who had a major gap between skill level. Of course, this was known before they were drafted as Brooke always had the better stats throughout their college careers. And even then, RoLo did have better defense and rebounding numbers early on.

    Essentially, with Kris Murray averaging comparable college numbers to Keegan, he should (in theory) be able to provide a similar impact where he hustles, plays some defense, gets some garbage points, and hits an occasional open three.

    Keegan will likely always be the better talent but in terms of stats, they should have comparable numbers on a superficial level (ex. Per 36).
     
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    I like that block rate
     
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    Which draft pick outside the lottery will have the biggest impact on his team next season?

    Woo:
    Kris Murray. He's going to be able to make shots and earn minutes for the Blazers, who don't have a ton of reliable shooting in their frontcourt and are presumably hoping to plug and play him. I don't know if Murray has a Keeganesque campaign (Murray's twin brother, Keegan, was a first-team All-Rookie selection for the Kings in 2022-23), but the stuff he naturally does on the court is pretty useful. There's certainly opportunity here for him.
     
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    Great pick!
     
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    I groaned when this pick was announced. I certainly am not the biggest absorber of college basketball, but what I've seen of Murray sees a guy who might just barely clear the bar, athletically, for an NBA player. Most outlets seem to like the pick, so I hope he proves me wrong. The skillset, positionality and "he'll know and play his role" component are all intriguing, as is the Dame connection, so will have to see this one play out. I just would have rather taken an upside swing on Miller or Nnaji.
     
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    I do agree.

    If Keegan Murray projects to be an 18-20ppg player like Tobias Harris (which is entirely possible given his performance), I expect Kris Murray to be a 14-18ppg caliber player who plays similarly.

    Not going to be a legitimate third or fourth option but a bench guy/starter on a playoff bound team.

    Nnaji, I can understand. He's quite a gamble. Imo, if Duren is Dwight Howard, Nnaji is like Bynum. Portland may find that a "Bynum" is going to be useful down the line.

    Leonard Miller, who has chemistry with Scoot, I think might end up a better player than Murray. Christian Wood meets Lamar Odom is how I described him (18+ppg potential). Maybe he fell for a reason but I would really hate that he is a Spur, if I'm a team with a young core, as he will make it difficult for teams in the future to contend. For Portland, it's very likely the Spurs just built the team that will prey upon them in the future. Portland's future offensive focal point is just not going to be tall enough to counter the Spurs that a Detroit, Houston, or Orlando can (already having secured defensive wings/forwards with star potential and centers to place next to their guards).
     
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    Leonard Miller is going to Minnesota.
     
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    Yeah, I just saw that, which is weird because I feel like Miller is a very Spurs type pick and his basketball IQ (a weakness of his) would've been better suited for the Spurs organization to develop than....well, the Timberwolves. Maybe Portland can snatch him up a few years from now with a 2nd rounder.
     
  20. Rastapopoulos

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    This strikes me as a very Desmond Bane type pick in the bottom third of the first round. Of course it's very unlikely he'll be that good, but it's also pretty unlikely he's a total washout.
     
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