Event AT what point would you consider the US to be over populated.

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  1. MarAzul

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    One per person would be fine for what I do. But I would not want to dictate any such limit. The total number of cars is directly dependent on the number of people we have.
     
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    no it's not.....half mile up the road is a family of 5...they have about 30 cars parked on their property...parking lots, gas stations, roads, etc....we have bloated the automobile population beyond reason in my view
     
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    Like I said, our population growth is completely due to immigration. And you avoid answering the salient question. You know over population can and does exist but you avoid pondering the specifics for you own country.
     
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    When the worlds wealth is spread out to every human equally and have run the earth dry of resources.

    Obviously we will not want to hit that point, but until wealth is evenly distributed for each individual to fend for themselves equally, that is not a question anyone can answer.
    Some of us Whites talk about minority suppression and How things are equal now and minorities have it the same, but thats bs. They were never given the jumpstart that Europian immigrants had by coming here and taking the land over, then raping its land and tesources for profit using slave labor to do it all. They were happy and content in their own culture and lifestyles without feeling the need to spread and consume.
    Yes, we originally migrated to get away from oppression, but we Came here and proceeded to suppress all minority immagrants in the process.
    It was a completely discusting display of hypocrisy that will never be forgotten and should be burned into every humans brain so the same dreadful mistakes are not made again. We must become more aware of the trickle down effect of the actions of our ancestors. Just because it is an instant world where yesterdays news is forgotten, doesnt mean we should neglect the fact that todays racial issues are still the aftermath of the actions of our ancestors and it takes more than just a few generations of healing before something like that can be trivialized as the past.
    In the greater scheme of things it just happened not long ago. Its fresh history in the timeline of man.
     
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    simply not true...you assume a lot ….our population growth has always been due to being the world's melting pot...don't think the English didn't contribute as well. I'm sure you'd have no problem if a Norwegian moved next door tomorrow...however you do have a problem with the more southern folks it seems...Taiwan was extremely gracious to all of us ex pats who lived and worked there....we should follow their example and the inscription on the statue of liberty
     
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    Your view? Well do you object to cars? Or do you object to other people having cars? Or do you object to your neighbor family having 30? Would a law making it illegal to own more than six per person help? It would not affect anyone I know, but for the guy that owns the Enterprise car rental place. It probably would ruin his business.
     
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    you don't seem to have a grip on anything I've said...that's avoiding.....you seem to think our extended life span has nothing to do with population
     
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    nice try...no banana
     
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    Sorry! You are correct! We are in the wrong forum.
     
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    Contributed and originated.
    Lets not forget that Africans and Asians were not migrating here in numbers like the Europeans in the decades after the Americas were discovered and mapped. We started gathering them up and bringing them here to do our dirty work, because we thought they were only three fifths of man. Not all man. Not equal, but here simply to be our servant slaves. Barely thought as more than a pet of sorts.
    Its really appauling that there are some that dismiss all of this in thier rebuttals and arguments in defense of whites not being the overall cause of our current racial conditions in this country.
    There is no fixing it or population control until every single white man on this planet acknowledges the atrocities of the last several hundred years and share equally the resources we hoarded with the slave labor we forced them to do.

    Really. If i were on the other side, i dont know if i would ever completely trust without something dramatic like that happening. A world unity and agreement to calculate the worlds wealth and redistribute equally to all.
    Not realistic i know, but i do not believe there to really be any other answer to truly get past racial tensions and inequalities.
     
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    And im a republican! Lol
     
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    To be specific, over populated with too many Citizens. Too many in my mind it the point when we can not sustain the population with a life style that pleases the vast majority of our fellow citizens.

    And I do apologize to the Blazer fans, for jumping in on a Basketball thread, responding to an immigration comment. Wrong thread.

    @riverman says we have too many cars.

    @Orion Bailey has some theory about when all the wealth is redistributed through out the world...

    They both lost me, I rather like numbers.

    My initial assertion is that our population growth is entirely due to immigration at this point, as our birth rate is below the point necessary for replacement. As per the CDC.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/17/611898421/u-s-births-falls-to-30-year-low-
    sending-fertility-rate-to-a-record-low


    "The CDC calculates a "total fertility rate" by estimating how many babies a hypothetical group of 1,000 women would likely have over their lifetime. That measure now stands at 1,764.5 births per 1,000 women — a 3 percent drop from 2016. The replacement rate is 2,100 births per 1,000 women."

    Where the immigration comes from is irrelevant to the number. As is the wealth of the world?
    The fact is, we are on track to exceed the population of China when the world first new that China was over populated. The world here includes China. So the question is, how many is enough? It seems to me, we should know this before we have too many and I think we will be there before we can change it, if we do not think it through. China had to take drastic measures, no need to wait that long.
     
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    Actually, I think I know the majority answer.
    It will be very similar to the answer to the question, what is the desired maximum tax rate.
     
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    On the bolded.

    I think they have direct corrolation. Wealth is more easily attainable in the united states than where most immigrants come from. They come here seeking a better life. Thst is provided by the a ability to work for a decent wage and or work for yourself trying to accumulate wealth.
     
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    Yes, this is very much like asking what you like the maximum tax rate to be? There is never an answer that would work in a calculator.
     
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    small part of what I said....if we're talking about efficiency I see a lot of greed and hording of things like cars....nobody needs that many...with modern medicine nobody needs 8 children either to work the farms like a hundred years ago....my bigger point was that immigration isn't ballooning the population...the population isn't dying off in a sustainable manner...I work in the senior care field..I also have a living will as I think many should. Americans are famous for refusing public transportation options which would be way more efficient than gridlock traffic...still mostly single passengers in each car...big waste...
     
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    zero income tax so people have more expendable income...tax consumption with a sales tax instead..you spend money you pay tax....tax only migrant workers income...giving citizens a perk....with a sales tax driven tax base you could choose to shop or save your hard earned dollars..with an income tax you have no choice..
     
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    You bloviate much. But totally dodge the questions, both of them.
     
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    bullshit....you only want parroted responses ...you have not engaged any of the points I've tried to discuss....talk with people not at them and conversations occur..dodge that
     
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    you exaggerate definitions
     

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