<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Buckets:</div><div class="quote_post">Boy your off if you think Josh Smith is an established outside shooter, I dont think he made it into double-digits in 3PT FG made, I only recall seeing him silk 4 threes and thats not being an outside shooter. </div> I didn't say he was an established outside shooter from downtown, I said he was an established perimeter shooter. "Perimeter shooting" is anything considered outside of mid-range shooting. He can make the 20 to 23 footer from a set shot and that's well inside the three point arc. He's not an outside jump shooter from 3-point land. No. He's shown ability to in being a decent shot, but if you have that much Vince Carter athleticism, why not get to the rim? And that's what he does. He probably needs refinement in shooting off the dribble and selecting spots before shooting from just anywhere. He's kinda raw, but he will be good. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Buckets:</div><div class="quote_post"> I'd rather sign a free agent center from another league like the NBDL or CBA like Jackie Butler or draft Channing Frye with our late pick or trade up for him with our pick and Al Harrington for someone else and Frye than start Drobnjak, dont get me wrong he's a good guy and I love seeing him in a Hawks uni but I'd rather have him coming off of the bench. Imagine this rotation. PG: Chris Paul/Tony Delk/Royal Ivey SG: Josh Childress/Tony Delk/Donta Smith/Josh Smith SF: Josh Smith/Donta Smith/Tom Gugliotta PF: Stromile Swift/Tom Gugliotta/Peja Drobnjak/Josh Smith C: Free Agent/Channing Frye/Peja Drobnjak</div> Or you can do C: Andrew Bogut PF: Stromile Swift SF: Josh Smith SG: Josh Childress PG: Antonio Daniels That might not be that bad. These draft picks won't make the Hawks a success over night, but it's a start.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Buckets:</div><div class="quote_post">Boy your off if you think Josh Smith is an established outside shooter, I dont think he made it into double-digits in 3PT FG made, I only recall seeing him silk 4 threes and thats not being an outside shooter. I'd rather sign a free agent center from another league like the NBDL or CBA like Jackie Butler or draft Channing Frye with our late pick or trade up for him with our pick and Al Harrington for someone else and Frye than start Drobnjak, dont get me wrong he's a good guy and I love seeing him in a Hawks uni but I'd rather have him coming off of the bench. Imagine this rotation. PG: Chris Paul/Tony Delk/Royal Ivey SG: Josh Childress/Tony Delk/Donta Smith/Josh Smith SF: Josh Smith/Donta Smith/Tom Gugliotta PF: Stromile Swift/Tom Gugliotta/Peja Drobnjak/Josh Smith C: Free Agent/Channing Frye/Peja Drobnjak</div> wheres al harrington and tyron lue? r they free agents? i would think the hawks would want to keep al harrington since hes only been a hawk for a year and has showed he can be 20 plus scorer.
Well, Harrington averages 17.5 for the Hawks and I was keeping Harrington out of the equation because I think the only way we get Stromile Swift is if we give someone up, in a sign and trade. Also, Lue if a FA if im not mistaken, its either this year or next year that he's a free agent. Before I took the Free Agent market into consideration I liked the Idea of Drafting Bogut better but my opinion has changed. Im starting to think the Hawks can be a good team with Chris Paul and a free agent that can run the floor preferabbly Stromile Swift.
Natural point guard instincts mixed with clutch scoring and leadership are so rare these days that the Hawks should consider looking into Chris Paul. Unless Bogut plays like Tim Duncan in the NBA, I don't think the Hawks will have much impact next season unless they land a player to create the offense, make others better, and set the tempo. Paul is widely projected as one of the players that is practically unguardable unless you try to match his speed or double him, hence the A.I. comparrisons in terms of quickness and quick thinking, but only at point guard instead of shooting guard.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Buckets:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Harrington averages 17.5 for the Hawks and I was keeping Harrington out of the equation because I think the only way we get Stromile Swift is if we give someone up, in a sign and trade. Also, Lue if a FA if im not mistaken, its either this year or next year that he's a free agent. Before I took the Free Agent market into consideration I liked the Idea of Drafting Bogut better but my opinion has changed. Im starting to think the Hawks can be a good team with Chris Paul and a free agent that can run the floor preferabbly Stromile Swift.</div> i would rather keep harington then use him in a sign and trade for stromile swift
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Buckets:</div><div class="quote_post">Boy your off if you think Josh Smith is an established outside shooter, I dont think he made it into double-digits in 3PT FG made, I only recall seeing him silk 4 threes and thats not being an outside shooter. I'd rather sign a free agent center from another league like the NBDL or CBA like Jackie Butler or draft Channing Frye with our late pick or trade up for him with our pick and Al Harrington for someone else and Frye than start Drobnjak, dont get me wrong he's a good guy and I love seeing him in a Hawks uni but I'd rather have him coming off of the bench. Imagine this rotation. PG: Chris Paul/Tony Delk/Royal Ivey SG: Josh Childress/Tony Delk/Donta Smith/Josh Smith SF: Josh Smith/Donta Smith/Tom Gugliotta PF: Stromile Swift/Tom Gugliotta/Peja Drobnjak/Josh Smith C: Free Agent/Channing Frye/Peja Drobnjak</div> Guys Al Harrington is better and bigger than Swift We need to build around those three guys. Ithink we bring K. Brown and Mike Redd then you can go Chris Paul Mike Redd Josh Childress Al Harrinton K. Brown This is a nice running team. I think we will try to buld our team like the Suns or Pistions!
PF and Center Al Harrington* F 6-9 250 Avg 17 pt Free agents Swift F 6-9 230 Avg 10 Kwame Brown F-C 6-11 243 AVG 7pts Samuel Dalembert C 6-11 250 AVG 8.2 Pts Guards Free agents Michael Redd G 6-6 214 Avg 23 Born 1979 Ray allen G 6-5 205 Avg 23 Born 1975 Height: 7-0 Weight: 240 lbs. Accolades: 2003-2004 Mountain West Freshman of the Year, Freshman All-American Team Scouting Report: Andrew Bogut Game has improved dramatically since beginning of his college basketball career? great skills for a big man? can know down medium range jump shot? phenomenal interior passer? makes it difficult to double team him? major question is whether lack of athleticism will hurt him at next level? for example fellow countryman Luc Longley was never able to become a dominant force in the NBA Strengths: Solid mid-range game? can play facing and with his back to basket? tremendous interior passer? competitive, desire to get better Weaknesses: Athleticism, needs the right system to be effective Height: 6-0 Weight: 175 lbs. Accolades: 2003-2004: ACC Rookie of the Year, All Third-Team ACC, National Freshman of the Year by some publications Scouting Report:: Chris Paul One of the premier players in the country? A great leader that has elevated Wake Forests? program? tremendous competitor whose best performances come on the biggest stages? moreover, he has a great work ethic and is very coachable. Strengths: Court vision, Driving ability, Defensive Pressure Weaknesses: Mid-range jump shot, Turnovers We need to draft Need and impact first Our biggest need is Center. We have a decent point guard know! We must draft Bogut and Sign Brown and then trade up to get J. Jack back up are starting point guard. Maybe get Salim Stoudamire! But we must sign somebody that can shoot and break down a deffense! Center Andrew Bogut he can hit the outside shot and postup foward Al Harrington he can create and beast posting up sFoward Josh Smith He can get to the hole and score and block shots guard Jchidress he becomming a Mr. Everthing Guard Lue He is serviceable pg Bench Kwame Brown F-C 6-11 243 AVG 7pts I would love to have Ray allen or M.Redd but would slow one of the josh down! Woodson will probally pick Sean May 17 pts a game Height: 6-9 Weight: 260 lbs is better for the team!
How is May better for the team??? Your saying you want to keep Harrington and draft Sean May with a top three pick? Are you crazy, the only way we'd be able to do that is if we were a championship team or the pick was a high schooler. But it's neither so I dont find your post(s) very logical at this point. Also Swift is much more athletic than Harrington, and for some reason when ever I think Harrington I dont think fast break.
What's the point of a sign and trade for Swift? You don't have to give up anything for him...He's a unrestricted FA. The Grizz tried to get something done last off-season, but nothing happen. Everyone knows Swift won't sign with the Grizz, and the Hawks have a lot of cap space, so what's the point of a sign and trade? It's like the Grizzlies get Al Harrington without giving up anyone... -- My Idea: Draft Chris Paul if he's available at their pick. Although Bogut is the hot pick, I've realized that this team can be more sucessful if they impliment a fast break type of game like Phoenix. That won't happen with Bogut starting. Draft Luther Head in the second round, as they are needy for a shooter. Re-sign Tyronne Lue, but do not over pay. However, I would look at Antonio Daniels and see his interest first. Trade Al Harrington for a draft pick where they would put themselves in a posistion to draft a Center, like the athletic John Petro. The problem is, nobody in the "John Petro draft range" has a need for a SF to start. I would do anything in my power to sign Stromile Swift, but I would not overpay for him. If they do not get Swift, then I would look at trading Al (if he's not traded already) and Diaw for a Center that can start, like Olowokandi, who's in the last year of his contract. If he performs well in the 05-06 season, and fits in well, they can consider re-signing him.
Harrington doesnt seem like a part of the Hawks future to me, he's in there for an instant impact and someone as athletic as Stromile Swift would fit well with a run 'n gun style of play the Hawks are trying to establish. I thought Swift was a restricted Free Agent thats why I thought of the sign and trade.
I <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Buckets:</div><div class="quote_post">How is May better for the team??? Your saying you want to keep Harrington and draft Sean May with a top three pick? Are you crazy, the only way we'd be able to do that is if we were a championship team or the pick was a high schooler. But it's neither so I dont find your post(s) very logical at this point. Also Swift is much more athletic than Harrington, and for some reason when ever I think Harrington I dont think fast break.</div> I was not talkin about pick him top 3> Iwas talking about later in the first rd.
