Exclusive Ayton is agreeing to buyout

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  1. JFizzleRaider

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    JFizzleRaider, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:17 PM
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    Bobby Marks guessed it would be 8-10 Million.
     
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    What’s the list of teams with a less promising future (5-10 years out) than Portland? And it’s not just about roster (which I don’t like). Factor in GM, coach, ownership in flux, zerrrro direction, and who is worse off? (Also again not asking you directly but just for discussion sake)
     
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    No GM shares their real plans in public, so that can't be the standard to judge one by. It's not like any GM starts out with a specific plan, hits on everything, and doesn't have to deviate. GM's miss on picks, trades, and FA signings, injuries happen, ownership directives change, etc.

    Cronin hasn't been amazing, while working for a less than amazing ownership group, in a small market. Was your expectation that he was going to be a top tier GM?
     
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    As it stands trading for Jrue makes zero sense.
     
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    Yes, we can rely on him to be injured at some point.
     
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    He doesn’t need to tell us or anyone the plan. But you should be able to tell what the plan is by looking at the roster the moves the picks old/young, tank/not, etc. It should be fairly obvious to almost anyone.
     
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    Tince, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:21 PM
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    I’d rather watch overpaid Jrue play than overpaid Grant or Ayton. Move doesn’t really make a ton of sense but I bet the D is gonna be lockdown.
     
    LayneStaley, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:22 PM
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    Who is available to sign at 14 million that A: is worth signing and B: would sign?
     
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    I'm past my prime, otherwise....
     
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    I think it's fairly obvious. Put together a roster that is within the Vulcans budget while not tanking for 4+ years. He's missed on some draft picks, missed on some trades. Had some good draft picks and had some nice trades. The Blazers have a bunch of young players on decent contracts and some draft assets moving forward. Nothing great, nothing terrible.
     
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    I hope it’s not Duncan Robinson even though he fills a need.
     
    LayneStaley, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:24 PM
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    Great question! As long as I've been a Blazer fan I've had a hard time coming up with a free agent signing at that level that would meet said criteria. We typically have to pay a tax to get talent to come here.

    I think we're probably more likely to use the MLE as a trade exception.
     
    Tince, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:26 PM
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    Kennard.

    Also, remember teams can take players into the MLE (essentially a trade exception). Would Portland be interested in Hauser to help Celtics lower their tax?
     
    CJ_is_Gone, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:28 PM
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    2 seasons ago he played the second-most minutes in the playoffs (Only Tatum played more) when Boston won the championship.

    Holiday also played the 2nd-most minutes in the playoffs for the Bucks (Middleton played 10 more minutes total) when Milwaukee won the championship.
     
    blazerfan11, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:29 PM
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    Please no. We laughed at the Heat trying to dump him off on us in a potential Dame trade.

    I dont like his game at all even though we need shooters.
     
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    Yeah... I dunno. There aren't a lot that jump out at me. Maybe New Orleans and Washington?

    And in terms of the plan, I think it's been trying to split the baby: build a younger core while being competitive on the floor.

    I think that's an impossible strategy because we're rebuilding against teams that are dedicated to a rebuild and competing for the playoffs with teams that are dedicated to winning now.... so you don't success on either front.

    I also don't like most of the moves he's made in trying to do this strategy. We seem to be in love with wings that just can't shoot the basketball, we haven't drafted well except with our three lottery picks (and even then, our guys have been objectively less impressive than most of their peers, even if I'm excited we've got them).

    We would be a lot better if we had San Antonio's luck in the lottery, of course, but the process and decisions have generally been bad so it's not just a matter of bad luck.
     
    Ed O, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:30 PM
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    Brother, we have been seeing the same thing for years. Cheers!

    This is the start of hoping I watch the team again in the next few years. But right now its a waste of time. Not holding out any hope they do anything to make us contenders in the next few years, but at least they got two of the worst players off of the team in Simons and Ayton.
     
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    Isn’t Mark Williams still there?
     
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