Exclusive Ayton is agreeing to buyout

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  1. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    After Grant is gone who will we turn on next?
     
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    Are they worth $90m/year combined?
     
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    I've been saying it since his rookie year... if Sharpe gets to his second contract, he'll be the next scape-goat and will be taking minutes from some high potential 2027 draft guy.

    Similar to the complaints about Ant taking opportunity from Sharpe, and CJ from Ant.
     
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    the two Blazers who irritated me, a lot, were Simons and Ayton. And I was pretty convinced neither had enough trade value to leverage a 1st out of some team

    both of them gone make me actually want to watch games next season. Good job Cronin. Can't wait to see how big a reduction Ayton agrees to in his salary

    Grant doesn't bug me; his contract does though
     
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    The Bucks picks look fabulous. Deni was 100% from Dame assets. Camara was in the deal. These legit may be our franchise top 3 assets!
     
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    Just a reminder on buyouts and the offset language. We get spared of his new contact amount by half minus the league minimum. League minimum is like 1.2. So if he signs for 5 million with someone, we're spared his buyout amount, plus (5-1.2)/2. So another 1.9 million. Not the FULL new contract amount.

    I was hopeful someone would want him, but can also see the argument for not taking back other bad deals, and this way, you give him an opportunity to sign somewhere at the beginning of free agency, like someone else mentioned, instead of waiting until a lot of money is gone.
     
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    I agree but I didn't want to say it and get all the pushback/flak for it.
     
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    Yeah if they weren't entitled to roles/shots/minutes and we're on vet min deals I'd have loved all 3 of them.

    But when they're the "big3" of the Blazers and given free reign to do whatever they wish.... Pretty easy to be justified in criticizing them.
     
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    Yeah I'm ok with Grant coming back. Without Ayton/Ant he played very good team ball in the early back to back wins over Minny.
     
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    No. And neither are most of the guys who make $30m. Is Porzingis? There are tons of guys who make way more than they’re worth. But they don’t “fucking suck”. It’s just not true and it’s frankly stupid to keep saying over and over
     
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    Jrue. When they are 16-23 and they’re point guard is old and making $37m this place will be livid
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    This is surprising because, while I am not a big Ayton fan by any stretch, he's still a better player than any other center on our roster... while I'm all about giving our young guys more run, that's not how Joe has been building this team.

    When we made the Simons deal, I said we should have just waived him rather than make that deal (and I still believe that) so I guess it's just good news that we didn't take on tens of millions of dollars of additional salary over the next few years and give up draft capital for the privilege.

    As for roster spaces: I find that pretty hilarious given we have kept guys like Minaya on the team for the last few years. Our problem has definitely not been that we've had too many good players, and Cronin doesn't seem to be changing that.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I legitimately think Clingan contributed more to wins in his 67 games last year than Ayton did in his 95 over the last two years.
     
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    To add on to this a little, Ayton s set to make 35.5 this season. Let's pretend he gave up 5 million, knowing someone would sign him for 5. Take the 5 from the buyout, and then the offset of his new 5(5-1.2)/2, and his actual salary would be reduced bey 6.9, bringing it down ~28.6.

    If someone signed him for the full MLE, of 14.1, that'd be a savings of over 11 million on his salary. Now it's down to ~24.5 million this year.

    Ideal situation is he gave up the full MLE amount in the buyout, because he had that full amount lined up. That would knock ~20 million off of that 35.5. Ideal. In otherwords, I'm 99% sure that isn't happening. But would be awesome.
     
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    Is he that worthless?
     
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    That QUITTER is finally gone. About time. Should've NEVER worn the crimson... I guess we took him on to get Camara... That's the only good thing.
     
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    So we are supposed to believe Clingan is a starting center in this league with the capability of not fouling out in the first quarter? Cause you see who our backup center is right? Wow!
     

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