Politics Bad signs for the Republican Party

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  1. Denny Crane

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    I say the difference in fundraising is a sign of how energized the party donors are. People voting with their wallets.

    Whatever republicans are selling is being bought. Whatever democrats are selling isn't.

    Perfectly consistent.

    It's so bad that Trump won. It's not gotten any better for democrats.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    And there's the domination at the ballot box in races up and down the ticket.

    Democrats do benefit from the republican economic policies that went before them. Except GHW Bush.
     
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    Funny you say that because we know how that went. GHW had to come in and raise taxes because of Reagan. Then Clinton came in and raised taxes and what happened then? Nvm you'll put your spin on it.
     
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    GHW had to raise taxes because he made the no new taxes pledge and EVERY single Bill passed by the Democratic congress had a tax hike attached to it.

    Bush set a record for vetoes.
     
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    But Denny, its well known that big business, which is big money supports the republican party.

    I dont think you can accurately judge support solely on the amount of money donated. how about the number of separate donations from different sects?

    I mean three quarters of the country could donate a dollar, all they can afford, to the dems, but if 1 person or company donates billions and billions of dollars to the republicans, it means they have the majority support?
    I'm a republican too, but lets be real real or nothing will ever be accomplished, eh?
     
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    The big republican donors are sitting on the sideline. It's tens of millions of small amount donations.

    Plus, the big money corporate donors favored the Democrats the past few cycles.
     
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    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-shatters-gop-records-with-small-donors-228338

    Donald Trump has unleashed an unprecedented deluge of small-dollar donations for the GOP, one that Republican Party elders have dreamed about finding for much of the past decade as they’ve watched a succession of Democrats — Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders and, to a lesser extent, Hillary Clinton — develop formidable fundraising operations $5, $10 and $20 at a time.​

    (Something like 14,000,000 small donors)

    https://www.gop.com/rnc-has-record-415-million-first-quarter/?

    Our record-setting fundraising pace has been fueled by grassroots enthusiasm for President Trump and the Republican Party,” said RNC Chairwoman McDaniel. “With more than a quarter million new small dollar online donors contributing to the RNC and Trump Campaign’s efforts, it is clear voters are invested in our Party and the president.​

    Another 250,000 in Q1.
     
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    The narrative you keep pushing that Bernie Sanders is inimical to the Democratic party is pretty silly. During the last night of the health care repeal's fiery demise, a Republican introduced a single-payer amendment purely to try to create divisions within the Democratic party. Bernie Sanders organized Democratic senators to all vote "Present" to foil that silly tactic. Clearly a guy who wants to kill the Democratic party. He wants to push the Democratic party left, but he wants to actually have a chance of winning, not try to throw elections to Republicans.
     
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    What's a few million potential Democratic Party voters not voting for Democrats anyway? Who needs 'em.
     
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    Assuming Sanders actually starts that party and the whole point is he won't.

    But maybe next cycle will be the one where Gary Johnson draws off voters from both crazy parties, eh?
     
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    His voters didn't show up for Hillary. Why do you think they will do so this time, especially after their plan is rejected?
     
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    Because Hillary won't be the nominee next time. I know that'll come as a big shock to Trump, since he seems to think all he needs to do is keep campaigning against her.
     
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    Correct, we can just have a few million more illegal aliens vote. They are pouring over the border. Problem solved.

    barfo
     
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    How do you know?

    This time, they should be a little more secure with their emails documenting how they stole the nomination from Sanders (or whoever).
     
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    Because it's rare (though not unheard of) for general election losers to be the nominee again and she was a particularly weak one for a few reasons that aren't going away. Nobody expects her to even run again, let alone be the nominee in 2020.

    But I endorse Trump's strategy of continuing to run against her. He should continue that into 2020.
     
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    Her twitter account sure reads like a person who is running.

    https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton
     
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    The party fixes its nominations. She's entitled to be president. We need a woman president - she's proud to play the woman card.
     
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