Baffled and Confounded by the "Hickson Situation"

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  1. JFizzleRaider

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    Mags owns it and thats all he gets in a response? Id probay give up too from that ownage
     
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    Sorry, but PER is just a made up number with bias written into it - it's not telling you anything about either of their defensive abilities.
    And how do you account for the difference in the quality of their opponents? Hickson is always given the more difficult defensive assignment while LMA is always given the easiest. Your comps don't have merit.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    16.4 is way lower than the average PER for the power forward position? Source?

    PER isn't a great stat to begin with and this +/- PER at different positions trend is even worse.
     
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    Blue9, you have convinced me. Thank you for that. Lma is a terribly inefficient, choke artist, defensive liability piece of crap. We would be a better team without him. Think of it like addition by subtraction right?

    Thanks man.
     
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    Tried getting the ESPN list when I looked at it last time. It was the top PFs based on PER. The middle of the pack of starters was 17

    For some reason it's at 0.00 right now
     
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    Oh if it's starters I could see it being 17. So basically, LA doesn't have an overly positive or overly negative effect on the PER of his opponent. I see how that can be a part of measuring defense, but I think it should just be treated as any other stat. It's a piece of the puzzle.
     
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    Oh absolutely!

    I'm going to be honest here. Me being defensive is being sick and fucking tired of all this anti-LMA banter. Then saying Hickson is just as good of a PF as Aldridge. It's boring... These delusional haters are losing their mind.

    I understand trading Aldridge for pieces. That's fine, but stay with that argument. Stop trying to bash Aldridge like he's some whack defensiveness PF wannabe. It's reaching!
     
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    Realizing that Hickson has the highest PER on our team made my confidence in the stat waver. Or at least how it's applied, cause it's used soooooo much.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    The point is that we have 2 adequate starting PFs. Instead of losing or benching one next year, we should trade one this summer to improve at other positions. Because Hickson's a FA, Aldridge is the only one of the two we could trade, not to mention the one we could get a top star for.
     
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    One All-Star PF, and another who would be a great bench player, elite, even.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    It's worth it to get the best center in the game, or one of the top-3 forwards or guards...Aldridge will get you that in a trade. You'll get a big up at one or two positions for a down at his.

    And we will no longer have the difficult coaching task of going far in the playoffs with the leading scorer being the PF, who should be concentrating on rebounds like Hickson does.
     
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    I would understand if Aldridge was traded for a elite center; but do you really think a team with one would be willing to give him up?
     
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    It would be even better to find a 3-way trade that sent LMA/Hickson/Batum to Miami/OKC for LeBron/Durant, and play Lebron at PF.

    Make it happen, Olshey!!! :MARIS61:
     
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    Every year some team decides it can't afford its star anymore. One year ago at the trade deadline, everyone expected the Magic to trade Dwight Howard, who wanted out.
     

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