Bayless Fading Again?

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  1. ABM

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    If Jerryd could master that Parkeresque teardrop prior to shoehorning his way into the land of the giants he'd be golden.
     
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    Yup. He needs to expand his game. Just getting by his man isn't enough anymore. Bayless is still pretty raw but he'll only get better with more playing time.
     
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    Bayless should indeed get an extended audition and a chance to learn. One thing I hope he learns soon is to be less of a ball hog and hit the open man. Which he failed to do repeatedly last night.
     
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    7 shots, 4 assists ... try again.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Jerryd, like Blake, is less effective when his outside shot isn't falling.

    Jerryd, unlike Blake, has a lot of other tools in his offensive toolbox with which to contribute.

    EDIT: Plus, if Jerryd is in "I'm the man, get out of my way" mode, he's a LOT more effective than when he's in "Brandon's the man, stay out of his way" mode.
     
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    You just illustrated why I'm not sure he'll ever be capable of being a starter for this team -- sixth man scorer ala Ben Gordon or JR Smith possibly, but not necessarily a starter.
     
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    I didn't say he didn't get any assists. I saw him ignore or fail to see teammates who were wide open, and either dribble into traffic or look for his shot. He didn't always shoot afterward, and maybe he was trying to run a different play so he wasn't looking for that pass, I don't know. I think there is little doubt he's a score first guard. In time I think his court vision and decion making will improve. In the meantime I expect him to have good games and bad games, good trips up the court and bad ones, but that's OK.

    Bayless is definitely a force the other team has to reckon with. His 0-7 night will only serve to anger and motivate him.

    :cheers:
     
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    He is strong enough to create space with his body and he can jump high enough to negate that 3 inches.

    Though really he should emulate both Roy and Parker if he can.
     
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    Came back with a strong game.

    Didn't shoot all that well, but I was impressed. 14/8 is really good for a bench player. I think he becomes our #2 scoring option w/o LMA.

    Man, this kid will be phenomenal. He is already really good, and his improvements from year 1 to 2 were really good. I've been impressed with his passing skills.
     
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    I really think that he has to borrow ahead to have those insanely great games. I'm fine with that; if his absolute ceiling is 31 points, that's fine. He won't be called on to do that often. Give us 14/7 a night and he'll be a borderline all-star.
     
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    He was lookin' good at the game, in person you can see a lot of contact he draws, last night I saw a ton and some no-calls (on both ends). So they were letting the guys be more physical last night. His passing skills were pretty dang good too, they credited him with one less assist than I thought.

    I wish Bayless could get in that turn-around fade-away like Roy, or when he goes up against a shot blocker, get into their body just a little bit more to get the foul.
     
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    he dominates the ball and can't find simple passes to wide open teammates. i thought he got credited with one more assist than he deserved. he had the ball get swatted off his leg to a wide open guy (pendy or howard?) and they had an easy lay-up. if the one you think they missed was pendy's dunk, than think again cause that was an awful shot and again he missed a WIDE-OPEN, rolling to the hoop of a pick and roll, where Pendy had just put Thorton on the ground with his pick.
     
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    Oh thank God. We were starting to have fun, but luckily you stopped us! Thank you!
     
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    Can't find simple passes to team mates? 8 assists? huh? :dunno:
     
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    Well, he should've had at least 14, dammit! A real point guard could get that many in a single quarter against the Clippers!
     
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    bigbailes, your bias is showing.
     
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    To be fair, even Blake can do that. If he can, a real PG should get 20 a quarter.
     
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    hahaha....at least the clips decided to play some defense last night, unlike that afternoon.

    he's getting better at passing but he still has outlawitis, you can tell he gets the ball and he's going to go one on five no matter what. and he still jumps every fucking time to pass. he had a couple turnovers last night just because of his stupid jumping to pass.
     
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    Yah, but that's what he does. He's a scorer. And last night he showed that he can pass as well.

    Isn't the point of the game to put the ball in the hole? :o)

    I think he did a really good job of sharing it and dominating it.
     
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    Honestly, Bayless is our 2nd option, and one of the only players on our team (Outside of Roy and Miller) who can create for himself and others (I'd say he is better than Miller at it, TBH).

    Nate gave him the green light because we NEED his scoring. But he has surprisingly been assisting very well and keeping his TOs down. He isn't hitting his shots, but the more time he gets the more rhythm he will get into.

    I have 2 knocks on Jerryd's game right now. One is that he does sometimes get tunnel vision, but even that has improved over the past year. Secondly, the guy gets to the hoop with the best of 'em, but sometimes he really misses the easier put ins and makes the harder ones. He needs to be able to finish better at the rim sometimes.
     

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