Trade Ben Simmons poll

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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

  1. CJ + RoCo for Simmons and scrubs

    9.7%
  2. CJ for Simmons

    62.1%
  3. It depends on our new coach

    3.4%
  4. I'm not trading for that bum!

    24.8%
  1. sheed30

    sheed30 Well-Known Member

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    Mod, he insulted me this should be removed, remember personal attacks are not allowed here LOL
     
  2. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    1. The only reason he is available (possibly) for a borderline all star 30 yr old inneficient player is because he hasn't improved his weaknesses. But his floor is still greater than CJ will ever be. And his skillset would mesh with Dame far better than CJ has as I have outlined ad nauseum.

    2. Who cares if Draymond has the balls to shoot? He still shoots 27% from 3 and less than 45% from the field. Him shooting doesn't change the fact that he's still far more inefficient than Ben (see @wizenheimer post on previous page). If he's shooting that badly, I don't WANT him to shoot.
     
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    Wow what a find. This straight up ends a lot of the arguments on this board by explaining how horribly wrong Simmons has been used. Fantastic video. Hey you said CJ has admitted he might be traded for Simmons on video? Where can I find that? Could you post it? Ty!
     
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  4. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Was just an off the cuff comment he made in late June after the Sixers drama started. ~18 min mark.
     
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    inconceivable Well-Known Member

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    "He's not gunna go to a team like Minnesota or some shit like that."
     
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    Who cares if he has the balls to shoot the 3? I think that’s very important, I mean draymond has to shoot it and hit it sometimes to keep the defense honest.

    how else are you going to keep the defense honest? If Simmons lack of even attempting 3’s don’t bother you enough, then that’s were we differ. Teams will just double team Dame over and over and over if Simmons is on the court and not keeping the defense honest and I see this being a big problem, even if Simmons helps us greatly on the defense
     
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    He has zero choice in where Philly trades him
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Draymond keeps defenses honest? We just gonna make up stuff now? Teams literally designed defenses around giving him wide open looks.

     
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    No doubt they can find a coach who is less over-rated and can come up with a better game-plan. (unless they hire Stotts) My question is whether you can find a coach who never says anything critical about a player's performance - and if you could find a coach with humming-bird balls, why would they want him?
     
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    Interesting comparison of Simmons to Giannis. The funny thing is, earlier today I was listening to an on-line rant about how Giannis was the most disrespected player in the league for much of his career.

    Not to belabor the obvious, but Giannis had a harder time establishing himself, he endured his share of negativity, and he worked hard to improve and prove himself.
     
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    So uh, Sixers get Salary cap relief? "Not sure they go for that", he said incredibly sarcastically.
     
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    this guy has been dead wrong before, but still...



     
  13. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    "Feeling is..."
    "...they are trying"
    "...it could end up..."

    Could he possibly hedge any more than this? Modern journalism (LOL...)
     
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The tea leaves tell me...
     
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    Hey, I would rather they acknowledge their uncertainty, instead of misleading us with fake confidence!
     
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    So you’re going to highlight one game of him not keeping the defense honest vs the many times he has hit a big 3 when left open? And in the Finals! Why don’t you YouTube draymond hits big 3? Or Draymond clutch moments. Don’t be silly man.

    You want to talk about stats? Draymond best season hitting 3’s was 38.8% on 3.2 threes attempted per game, for his career he is 31.6%. Which is not that great at all, but the fact remains he has and will take 3’s and make them sometimes to keep the defense honest.

    And what about Simmons? In 4 seasons, 275 games played he has hit 5 out of 34, the guy has only hit 5 threes in his whole career! Yuck!

    you can’t even argue Draymond/Simmons as far keeping the defense honest.

    How in the heck does the guy have 3 rings if he hasn’t had to keep the defense honest many times?

    and basically you are making my point in that video, Simmons will be a lot worse in that situation than Draymond lmao. Are you going to get ready to see a lot what you saw in that video with Simmons?
     
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    Are you saying the tea leaves aren't a sure thing!?!?!
     
  18. 42N8Bounce

    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    Um, that video showed at least 5 different games.
     
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    um, are you really going to make me go and post Draymond hitting big 3's and clutch moments?
     
  20. Hoopguru

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    His answer to the one question in that interview was pretty bad, for a guy that experienced especially right after the loss.
     
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