Trade Ben Simmons poll

If you had both Fox and Haliburton and you could acquire Simmons for one of them an some for salary, wouldn't you do it. Heck, they also drafted another point guard.

 

I can't wait to watch the Sixers' entire year go up in flames unless they trade Simmons to us for CJ, in which case all is forgiven. Right now though, damn I hate Morey. That guy just can't get over himself.

 

I put a really high value on Simmons as a PF that can be a secondary facilitator (a Giannis/Draymond hybrid). I don't think everyone sees him that way and the Kings know they can't get him for just one of those guys but a package surrounding one of those guys and the report is they just don't think that Simmons is worth it or that Morey has the leverage to demand that. I'm pretty sure that the Kings are looking to upgrade their starting 4 with Bagley and Hield going out in a trade. I think if they can't do that then they'll roll with what they have hoping a year of development with so much young talent gets them contending for a spot in the playoffs.

If I was them and could get Simmons for Fox and Bagley and that's it, I'd do it in a heartbeat but again, I have a high valuation of Simmons and what he could be. I think Haliburton, Hield, Barnes, Simmons and Holmes would be a starting lineup that would make the playoffs especially with their rookie coming off the bench in the back court, Tristan Thompson being their backup big and having Moe and Metu coming off the bench too.

 

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/9/28/22698824/ben-simmons-trade-philadelphia-76ers

O’Connor suggests Paul is trying to steer Simmons to a team built around him on offense. Can you say lottery team?

 

Why would anyone want to build around him? I think he could be a solid second star, but he's not a #1.

 

I seriously doubt anyone in Simmons' camp said this. I bet they just don't want a role like he had in Philly where he's just setting other guys up.

 

he might make a solid 2nd star, but I don't know that he should be a 2nd or even 3rd option on offense

 

The article was by Kevin O'Conner at The Ringer. Is he a guy who just pulls nonsense out of his ass?

 

None of them pull stuff out of their asses, they get a quote from a guy that knows someone and run with it. Did we learn nothing from the Dame situation? Everyone including the Ringer was reporting that Dame was days away from requesting a trade and nothing could have been further from the truth... as far as we know. I'm just saying that I doubt Simmons wants to play on a team that sucks, I also doubt that in his situation he's trying to eliminate any good options. I imagine as long as he has a prominent role that he'd be happy just to be done with this shit and collecting his fat checks.

What I was saying is it's pretty consistent across multiple reports including this one, that he doesn't want the same role with his next team as he has had with the Sixers. He could have preferences like wanting to play in California and wanting to be the number one guy but I sincerely doubt that those are requirements but I don't know... it's just what seems logical.

 

no different than most here at S2. He just figured out a way to get a lil scratch for himself. I’d put that ahead of the S2 folks.

 

I’ve said this many times and I’ll say it again. Ben Simmons (and the Sixers) have played their best at the end of Ben’s rookie year. Embiid was out with an eye injury and the team was built around Ben with shooters like Ilyasova and Belinelli around him. They won 16 games in a row. It’s why Ben beat out Donovan Mitchell for ROTY. And Mitchell was awesome that year. Also- in the 2019 playoffs, Embiid missed a game and Simmons led the team to a fun win with 31 points and 9 rebounds. Finally, when Simmons was out hurt in the 2020 playoffs, the Sixers were swept in the first round. I know it’s a scorching hot take but if I were the Sixers, I would build around Ben and trade Embiid. For the reasons I stated and Ben is younger with less (not no) injury concerns.

 

Personally I think the Kings would be foolish to trade for Simmons. They are starting to put together a good core that will carry them for quite a while. They need one or two more significant pieces and they are set to have a solid team.
Why take the chance on a head case?

For the record i don't want Simmons here either so i guess that holds true across the board.

 

CJ just released a pod.

CJ is back after Portland’s Media Day talking about gearing up for the regular season. Preparing with new teammates, new coaches, and new plays heading into the season. Plus, 30th birthday celebrations, and an a trip to the Cleveland sidelines to watch the Browns take on the Bears. Then CJ dishes on the latest vaccine situations in the NBA and how his role as the NBPA President factors in, and addresses rumors about a Ben Simmons trade. Plus, Klay Thompson looks like he could be back on the court soon, and 2k ratings are out!

Link.

 

From Jake Fischer aka Baby Woj.

Multiple team officials B/R contacted mentioned the possibility of a Nets-76ers blockbuster that would swap Irving for the disgruntled Ben Simmons, citing a natural solution for the league's two buzziest controversies.

Yet several league sources with knowledge of the situation strongly pushed back on the notion that either Irving or the Nets are looking to make such a move. "Kyrie came to Brooklyn to win a championship alongside Kevin Durant," one veteran executive told B/R. James Harden's confidants, sources said, have communicated they expect Irving to be part of Brooklyn for the foreseeable future.

 

Simmons is an awful fit in Brooklyn. And Irving is a bigger headache than Simmons lol.

 

For those of us that don't feel like listening, how did CJ address the Simmons trade rumors?

 

He said Simmons is possibly justified in wanting more space w/o Embiid and him asking out and holding out is nothing new. As far as trades involving him, he's unfazed by them and is grateful for everything Jody/teammates/previous coaching staff gave him. His goal is to give it his all and try to win a title, but is unbothered if he were to be traded.

 

OK. Time to trade him now.
I'm sure he has a desire to see what he can become in a lead guard spot (instead of being 2nd fiddle to Dame).

 

i think the ball is in morey's court on this front at the moment, and i'm fully on board with neil holding his ground firmly on a 1 for 1 swap. With simmons' value cratering, there is no need to outbid yourself.