Trade Ben Simmons poll

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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

  1. CJ + RoCo for Simmons and scrubs

    9.7%
  2. CJ for Simmons

    62.1%
  3. It depends on our new coach

    3.4%
  4. I'm not trading for that bum!

    24.8%
  1. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Personally I go back and forth on it, but if I’m Morey and I can get McCollum for him you just gotta do it. Simmons’ value isn’t gonna get higher, he has no interest in being there, and only showed up for the money. At some point it’s gonna have an effect on the rest of the team.
     
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  2. sheed30

    sheed30 Well-Known Member

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    Well best case for us, if were going to eventually trade for Simmons, is CJ balls out for the first month or two and Simmons numbers suffer and his value gets ever lower....Maybe we can play hard ball and get Morey to include Thybulle somehow or one of Sixers young prospects as well. Maybe wishful thinking though
     
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  3. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Some of the comments coming from Embiid post practice are exactly what I was hoping for. Why it took this long for Simmons to make this situation uglier is beyond me... but I'm glad it's here. This is 100% on Morey and his insistence on getting value.



     
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    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

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    Ben to Portland. Let's do it!
     
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    Predator The Godfather

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    It’s well known I don’t particularly want the guy, but I’m not so sure you can use this off-season against him in the “baggage” department.

    As far as I can recall, he’s never had any serious issues.

    Most of this I chalk up to a guy trying to force his way out and an organization that is unwilling to play ball.

    I’m sure his value is skyrocketing as we speak. /s
     
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    For those of you who don't want Ben here I just have to wonder why. He's not going to be the PG. He's going to be our secondary ball handler and we're going to tell him to score as many buckets as he can get in the restricted area. Oh and then we're going to ask him to do what he loves to do and play world class defense. The dude would be so relieved to get away from Embiid and get to play with a dude that will treat him like Dame would that he'd be chill. He's been chill with Embiid's bullshit for four fucking years.

    The Sixers are making this difficult. They should trade his ass and Neil should meet them half way and give them CJ and a pick or two and whatever swaps they want.

    We get to be one of the best defenses in the league. We still get to have a great secondary ball handler who actually likes to move the ball. We still get to have a ton of shooting on the court. We become a better team... so it's worth the draft capital especially if us being better keeps Dame here and him and Ben can become a more versatile Stockton and Malone.

    If it doesn't keep Dame here then we're starting the rebuild with Simmons in place and adding to him what we get for Dame instead of this crazy idea of getting Simmons for Dame.
     
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    There have been rumblings about his work ethic in the past. The fact that he hasn't really evolved as a player gives credence to that. Id probably take him for McCollum, but its a risk because if it doesn't work out Dame will bounce faster than if his best buddy were still here imo.
     
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    Simmons isn't doing himself any favors, PR-wise, but I'm not sure a GM, coach, and franchise player could screw up a situation worse than this. Morey has over-played his hand by a power of 37. He seems to be more interested in 'beating' Simmons in this stand-off than salvaging the best situation for the team
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    I think it's very evident this team needs more than a 3 small guard lineup. Take a risk
     
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    There is a lot of reasons why people don’t want him on this team, and rightfully so. Whichever side you’re on, it’s not hard to see the reasons why someone does or does not want him here.

    Come playoff time, unless he fixes his shit he is going to be a huge liability on offense and to get hacked, and good teams in the playoffs will force him to score.

    Regardless, I also don’t think CJ for Simmons makes us any closer to a championship.

    But if you plug Simmons into this current team, and bring Norm or Cj off the bench then we are one step closer to the ring. But we know that isn’t going to happen, we need to give up someone of course.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Ben Simmons would be an awful get. Its facts not up for debate.
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    Huh what no way. This is squarely on Simmons. He’s total garbage as a teammate and acting like a spoiled baby. Totally unprofessional
     
  13. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    Maybe this is the plan. He is now not just not coming, he is an active distraction, sort of what Butler was with the T-Pups. This should make them eager to trade him.
     
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    Great move by Simmons. It should increase the teams urgency to trade him
     
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    This 147 page thread proves you are wrong. #ProofIsInThePudding
     
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    It would be terrible to send a guy out that is a bad defender and get back one of the best in the league. It would be really bad to have a huge secondary ball handler for Dame to get the ball to when doubled. In this new offense it would be horrendous for us to have another willing passer who likes to move the ball and move without it. Finally, it would be so awful to have another all nba selected player on the team. You're right "Its facts not up for debate."
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    As i was saying... going according to plan. The idea that Simmons showing up would increase his value was misguided. Morey is one headstrong MF though. I don't see him getting rattled by this recent episode in practice. The only way I see him really budging on his ask is if Joel tells him to get rid of Simmons for anything, or if they start letting this drama affect their record.

     
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  18. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    147 pages!!??

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    This is actually the correct strategy to being traded, if you’re any franchise NBA player. Lol

    Now there’ll surely be pressure on the front office to trade from players and coaches. Morey is going to have to swallow his pride.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    it is, but dude still hasn't been paid.



    i think the point of him showing up was strictly to create drama, which im fully here for.
     

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