Trade Ben Simmons poll

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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

  1. CJ + RoCo for Simmons and scrubs

    9.7%
  2. CJ for Simmons

    62.1%
  3. It depends on our new coach

    3.4%
  4. I'm not trading for that bum!

    24.8%
  1. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Different sports, but it reminds me of this NFL player, Jared Gaither. Used the back excuse to avoid having to play after getting paid. It’s the perfect excuse because it’s hard to tell whether it’s true or not.
     
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    I have no clue what Morey and Philly's end game is here. And frankly, as much as the national media want to praise them for their "tough stance" on over-the-top player empowerment, they just don't seem to realize what is obvious about a league reliant on guaranteed contracts... players in longterm, guaranteed contracts (and especially when they are well compensated) ALWAYS have the leverage, regardless of situation and circumstance.

    Morey saying he will wait four years unless he can get an upgrade is frankly stupid (as with "nagging injuries" Ben seems like the type to happily get paid all four years for doing zilch). No one is giving up a superstar or near superstar for Ben Simmons, and there is no chance that he is coming back to play committed basketball for Philadelphia. While they received praise for withholding his money in escrow, encouraging Ben to come back to the team only has lowered his trade value and further disrupts team chemistry. Raise your hand if you're a team that feels comfortable giving up significant draft assets (to flip for a star in the moment or later) to build around a Ben Simmons-led core now? Anybody? They were better off having him be the mysterious enigma posting promising instagram highlights of his training session in LA.

    I understand that Morey is posturing here, but to what end? Ben ain't coming back to play hard for the Sixers, and these comments in conjunction to Simmons's recent behavior is certainly not encouraging other teams to enhance their offers for the guy. While I understand the effects of pride in a machismo sport, but Morey and Philly have played this wrong from almost the beginning.
     
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    and Embiid’s status is questionable for the game because of right knee soreness

    this is why you can’t have 35% of the salary cap pretty much floating in the air
     
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    I appreciate your opinion but the guy is either superstar or borderline and easily top 3 best defenders in the league regardless of what stats say
     
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    I was on the CJ for Ben trade bandwagon but more and more I'm thinking prima-donna who may or may not play with heart and who, I believe, would disrupt any team chemistry.

    Sure he can be good at least with respect to defense and distributing but he acts like an entitled twit who hasn't earned his entitlement.
     
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    If Morey stands his ground for four years, this thread will absolutely eclipse the melo thread!!!
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Morey is almost as annoying as Olshey :bored:
     
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    Simmons finally realized that Kawhi Leonard did it right by using injury as the excuse to hold out.
     
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    this development was the next logical step.
     
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    Egg... face.



     
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    LOL...that's funny

    on one hand, he's using the prime of Embiid's career as the keystone for his strategy. On the other hand, he's essentially talking about wasting the prime of Embiid's career on a pissing match between himself and Simmons
     
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    it's just embarrassing really
     
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    Cryptic Dame IG posts and his public frustration about our "dedication to winning" indicate that he doesn't agree with you.
     
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    Difference maker is long way from another superstar, difference maker leaves it more open and gives Morey a way to come out of this without looking like he caved
     
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    I think CJ is a "difference maker" the dude drops 30 without breaking a sweat and when playing lead guard, can do that and get 7 assists. Morey isn't playing a game with Simmons, I think he already knows the outcome of that one. The dude is playing a PR game and negotiating with other GMs through the media.
     
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    There are retired NBA players looking at criminal convictions and even jail time for insurance fraud - and their takings put together are less than Simmons can fraudulently obtain from Philly in one season. SMH.
     
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    I’m a CJ fan I just don’t think CJ and Dame can win it all together where adding Ben for CJ would give us better shot. My guess CJ goes to Philly as starting PG he will have career year and be great blend with that team. Cj is class act and I have mad respect for him as person and player. Will always root for him unless he becomes laker or Net lol
     
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    Wasn’t saying CJ isn’t a difference maker I definitely think he is just saying Morey may settle for less in a player in return if he can get more in assets (draft picks/swaps)
     
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    One thing to remember - he can't trade Simmons without taking back a ton of salary. The one scenario worse than this would be for Morey to just cave in and trade him for an albatross deal. (EG Love or Westbrick) As long as Morey and ownship are on the same page he can largely ignore what outsiders think.

    To put it in cruder terms - it's dumb to eat shit to avoid egg on your face.
     

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