Trade Ben Simmons poll

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Jun 21, 2021.

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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

  1. CJ + RoCo for Simmons and scrubs

    9.7%
  2. CJ for Simmons

    62.1%
  3. It depends on our new coach

    3.4%
  4. I'm not trading for that bum!

    24.8%
  1. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly right and the haters like to throw out aspersions against people who disagree with them and have no real substance to their criticisms other than shooting, which is real, but also the most correctable skill in the game. The other phantasm they like to point to is attitude. Sure it has some merit, but this guy isn't Ron Artest, or Qyntel Woods ready to drop us into a Jail Blazers era. He's a guy who really shouldn't be the first banana who has some growing up to do. Attitude can definitely be adjusted. Especially when you go from a top 5 worst teammate in the league (Embiid who's Twitter handle is literally "Troel") who has a terrible attitude, just a winning one, and a coach who threw him under the bus publicly in one of the worst singling out of a player that I can recall. I really don't understand how so many seem AOK with the equivalent of Dame Lillard and Stotts publicly humiliating CJ and then blaming CJ for getting upset. A few folks just have their silly petty narratives (perhaps to drive drama for their own reasons) and are missing the forest for the trees. PDX is not Philadelphia, our fans aren't the same, Billups isn't Stotts, and Lillard is the best goddamn leader in sports, not a supremely talented Ass-Clown like Embiid. I'd much rather deal with Simmons's attitude than a guy who throws his teammates under the bus and takes delight in trolling the whole league.
     
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    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

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    Has there ever been a thread that didn’t end up in in an argument? Lol
     
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  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    How about an All-Defense player for a player who is reluctant to defend?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    If all anyone did on here was sing kumbaya and agree, it would be pretty fucking boring.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Lol no one is trying to convince you. Why are you melting down?
     
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    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

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    true.
    Also not fun having to scroll through all of it
     
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  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    There's not much else to do right now. Talk about potential trades and how the current roster shakes out.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    There's a difference between melting down and adamantly telling y'all I'm tired of going back and forth.
     
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    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

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    just walk away lol
     
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    Another Fallacy. CJ has always been a willing defender. He has also been a defender who was coached by someone who sucks at coaching D

    Did you miss this post in the Larry Nance thread?
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Didnt you start it? You seem to start screaming at any opinion deviating from your own
     
  12. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I guess we'll get a chance to see what CJ is capable of doing under a different coach, because Neil's dumb ass won't be trading him.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    You're telling this guy to walk away? Yeah... Not happening...

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  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Also, if CJ's excuse for being a shite defender is that he has had a bad coach, why isn't Simmons' excuse for being a bad shooter that he has had bad coaches?
     
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    You can call caps screaming if you want, I use them for emphasis. :dunno:
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Then there's the consistent brow beating and not listening that I get fed up with.

    I can't tell y'all enough ways why I think Ben Simmons isn't right for our team.
     
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    hahah
     
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    You do this with everything... False equivalences...

    You can't possibly believe that Simmons' coaches don't want him to work on his jumper...
     
  19. Natebishop3

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    See, the difference is that I can see why some people don't want him. I understand it. Hell, in some ways I agree with it, but I also see some reasons why we should take the chance. I have explained those reasons. If you have made up your mind, so be it, but at least recognize some of the reasons that people have for wanting him as being valid.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    You can't possibly believe that CJ's coaches didn't want him to work on his defense...
     
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