Bernie seems like a guy from another planet!

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    There's overspending and then there's just flushing money down the toilet because of mismanagement of funds.

    One example was the outright theft of billions of dollars by private contractors during the Iraq War through frivolous spending and price gouging. We got taken in a big way, and nobody did anything about it.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Bernie Sanders has never advocated giving anything away for free.
     
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    And this is why not too many people in here will take you seriously. Not like you give a shit.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Yes but do we really need to spend more on our military than the next five countries combined? Russia and China are among those five...
     
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    You say this while completely ignoring the waste and fraud in our "defense" budget.

    If government can't run ANYTHING correctly like you say, why do we trust how much they're spending on our military??

    You guys can't have it both ways.
     
  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Nah. A better example is congressmen approving some weapons system because it creates jobs in some state - a system that the military doesn't want.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Not quite.

    I don't trust how much they're spending on the military.

    What I do know is "not enough" is really bad, and whatever else they spend on in government is equally full of pork.
     
  8. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    It's not a question of spending more than those countries combined. It's a matter of spending 3% of our GDP on military, which is not even close to a wartime %.

    We just happen to have a HUGE GDP compared to the others.
     
  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Havana before socialism:

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    Havana today:

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    You still can't have it both ways. Does Finland, Norway, and the Netherlands look like that?

    Cuba had a dictator. To compare that situation to Democratic Socialist Sweden is disingenuous at best an outright lie at worst.
     
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    Nobody stopped the rest of the world from trading with Cuba.

    They simply ran out of other people's money sooner than most countries will.
     
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    The bottom line is you can't blame socialism for that. Doing that is very disingenuous and you know it.
     
  13. Natebishop3

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    That's just another example. One of thousands.
     
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    And that's why I stopped arguing with you. The whole basis of your argument boils down to one-lined insults "You're full of shit". I can't debate that kind of immaturity.

    Really? What dictator runs Detroit then?

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    The Democrat party has destroyed that place.
     
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    Snyder and his Republican buddies are responsible for Flint Michigan.
     
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    Detroit hasn't elected a Republican Mayor since 1961.

    http://eaglerising.com/1912/democrats-run-americas-ten-poorest-cities/

    What about the rest of those cities too? And that's not even mentioning cities like LA, Fresno, Stockton, Compton, Sacramento, and San Bernardino. All in a State that is a beacon of Liberal Democrats and out-of-control Socialism.

    Oh, and before you start....

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhen...st-u-s-states-really-republican/#71b2ca9d4ddd

    The author has a PhD in Economics and Social Policy, with studies in Law and Literature from Harvard, Oxford, and the Michigan School of Law. You wanna go argue this with him, then be my guest.

    But I know who's word I trust more vs the Keyboard Justice Warriors on here.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    As I said, you need to get educated with Michael Moore movies. You say that automotive cities like Detroit were ruined by Democratic mayors. Ever since Moore's first movie, everyone except you has known that the cause was car manufacturers moving out of the U.S.

    As for the California cities that went bankrupt, the cause was conservative city councils giving police giant pensions. Once the pensions came due, the cities went bankrupt.

    Interesting how conservatives ruin cities with their policies and then blame liberals.
     
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    The Republican governor appoints dictators to run some Michigan cities. Elected Democratic mayors have no power over the unelected dictators. So unrepresented voters suffer under stupid Republican dictator decisions like changing the water supply of Flint, Michigan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_emergency_in_Michigan
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    So you didn't read any of the links I posted.....and your fall-back answer is that I need to watch a Liberal activist hack....who, by the way, is a multi-millionaire who made his fortune off of stupid and gullible people?

    Sorry, but I think for myself.

    Oh Jesus....where's my facepalm?

    ELECTED. Not "Appointed". It's not the Republicans fault that droves of poor Democrats scamper to their voting booths and elect these morons. That's on them. Because it certainly isn't Republican voters voting in Democrats.

    Get a clue.
     
  20. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    Here is what he looks like in the hotel room th crazy people.jpg
     

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