Politics Biden Picks Kamala Harris As Running Mate

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    Yes, and she also championed efforts to get non-violent offenders out of prison and back into society, a program that showed way reduced recidivism rates. She's consistently been against the death penalty and stuck to it even when being pressured by the political establishment to seek the death penalty for a cop-killer, refusing to do so. After the Ferguson tragedy, she instituted a review of the Californian police forces for implicit bias and required new training bringing in psychologists and professors to help. She also instituted another inquest into California law enforcement for civil rights violations.

    So, yeah, she's done some very questionable or just straight-up wrong stuff, but she's also done some very good and laudable things. I'm not willing to just call someone a villain because they have a mixed, insufficiently pure record. More to the point, a lot of the better stuff has been more recent, pointing to a positive trend line in what she's pushing for.
     
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    Kind of like a scurvy laden Pirate hitting a gold coast town rampant with syphilis.
     
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    This was an important one for me. I realize it had no chance of passing, and Harris voting for it wouldn't have made a difference. But it shows where she is on the spectrum of progressiveness. That should be an obvious yes vote for a progressive.
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    Its a tough one to swallow for true progressives
     
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    How does the ACAB crowd feel about this?

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    Sure, she ran on Medicare for All, until she didn't. Do you think she still supports it? Or did she give up on it because it's not what the establishment wants?
     
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    It is quite telling when Wall St. is happy that a democrat won't drift too far left. It means that Biden is right-leaning enough on their issues for them. In other words: They own Biden.
     
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    I think she supports it in the way Obama supported a public option--it's what she'd like ideally, but if she can't get it, she'll take what she can get. Some people call that caving, but I view it as being an effective public official--when dreams run into reality, it's good to keep advocating for the dream, but it's also important to take the Obamacare you can actually get.

    In some ways, Sanders not winning the nomination might be the best thing for Sanders and his most ardent supporters (and I say this as someone who preferred Sanders to Biden)...they'll never have to see him give in on his priorities because Congress won't pass them. I want the Sanders agenda, but I always understood that the Sanders agenda can't pass a Congress who's median is to the right of even Joe Biden's agenda. I think a lot of Democrats want things that aren't politically feasible...you can either "stand strong" and get nothing or compromise on the vision and keep moving things in the right direction, even if only incrementally. Obamacare was pilloried by liberals when it happened, but it's moved the Overton Window on health care--with Obamacare now the status quo, an outright majority of the American public believes that universal access to health care is a reasonable right. That was never the case prior to Obamacare. So did Obama betray the left by helping to push through a bill that didn't even have a public option (which he advocated for when campaigning) or has he done the left and America a big service? You can look at it either way, but I'm firmly in the camp of getting as much done as possible even if that falls short of what we'd ideally want.
     
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    I want to hear about Kamalas jobs
     

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