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  1. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    It's true. I've witnessed all my life the generous poor and the stingy rich. When someone has nothing, they have nothing to lose. When people are on top looking down, they tend to develop fear of falling.

    (I'm not saying everyone is like this. I hope that's obvious, but perhaps not.)
     
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    rotary111 Well-Known Member

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    Some of these guy's can make up the 50 mill they would have lost and make it up 3 times over in endorsements and still have a shot at a ring.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    A lot of these guys grew up poor--of course money matters to them. Acting like they're evil, stupid or non-competitive for caring about money is silly. If I grew up poor, I wouldn't just want money for myself, I'd want to create generational wealth so my descendants wouldn't have to worry about money either.

    Also, it's really easy to tell us what your decision would be when you're not in that situation. ;) It's like people who explain what they'd do in the face of a gunman, especially to criticize those who actually had to deal with it. Maybe you think you know, but you don't know until that extra $50-100M or gun is in your face.

    The other amusing thing about this is that if a player does jump to a better team, they're called non-competitive for not alpha-dogging their "own team" to a title. Kevin Durant wants to be the best! Are you celebrating that? ;) David West actually took less money to join the Spurs and was called a coat-tail rider and was laughed at when the Spurs were bounced from the playoffs. West is a pretty good example of why players should take the money--money is guaranteed, winning a title isn't.
     
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  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Competitors will compete for dollars, not just on the court.

    Jordan wanted his big contract, in spite of massive income from endorsements, just because he wanted to be the highest paid player.
     
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    selloutking BALL DON'T LIE!

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    shaq did the same thing
    hence moving to LA
     
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  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Yep.

    It's probably a good thing. The fiercest competitors win.
     
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    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Me, too... which is why I know we won't get him :(
     
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    Player-----Points---Rebs---Assts---Blks---Stls---FG%---FT%---Salary
    Chandler....10.0.....15.4.....0.8......0.6.....0.8.... .679.... .667.....$12.4M/$13M/$13.6M
    Noel...........18.6......7.7.......0.8.....1.8......2.8..... .596... .647.....$4.4M - $5.8 QO in 2017/18
    Nurkic........16.8.....12.2......2.6.....1.6......1.3...... .530... .524.....$1.9M/$2.9M - $4.1M QO 18/19
    Crabbe........13.5......3.8......1.5..... 0.2.....0.7...... .492... .859.... .444 (3-pt%)

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    Allen Crabbe is most often mentioned as an asset to be able to acquire a defensive minded 'big'. But what might he be worth? His per/36 points are 20% behind Nurkic and even more so behind Noel. He gets 40% less assists than back-up big man Nurkic and shoots the lowest FG% although his 3pt% is now up to #7 in the entire NBA. (CJ is #21, Harkless is #94....Dame didn't make the Top-100)

    So if they want a shooter, they would be hard pressed to find one better. If they need much else out of him, they might look elsewhere.
     
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    Hopefully GMs are smart enough to realize that some of those stats are related to his role on the Blazers and may vary if he's put in a starting position where he's used as more than a spot-up shooter.
     
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    Certainly the potential is there for him to be more productive out of the shadow of Dame/CJ. In terms of overall game, he has had opportunities to set up teammates especially as teams begin to pay more attention to him. Just haven't seen him do it yet.
     
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    I cannot fathom what it's like to be that rich. I'm not even a 100thousandaire. That 50MM could change a lot of lives.
     
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    We need to trade Allen Crabbe simply because I want to see CJ light his ass up! Hahaha JK... well only a little lol.
     
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    On its face this sounds halfway logical. However, what you're saying is that someone is to give up the possibility of adding half of their net worth to their total net worth. I don't know bruh... I don't think it's that simple. You'd have to at least consider it.
     
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    okay, okay, I get it, lol. Fucking money hungry sobs....@!!!! lol
     
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    Next time you turn down $50M, let us all know about it!
     
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    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

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    Put they first $100 mill in my pocket and a ring on one shelf and the $50 mill on the other and ill take the ring every time. Im pretty thrifty with money though, ;)
     
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    Well, then, if you end with neither $50M or a ring, because the Warriors or someone beat you, don't come crying to me. Fair enough?
     
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    $100 million

    Counting by one dollar bills

    $100,000,000.00
    $99,999,999.00
    $99,999,998.00



    Nah.. Im pretty sure Id be fine with what I got... ;)
     

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