K4E, you'd all but guarantee it? Why on earth would you put your credibility out there like that? There's absolutely no evidence of it that I know of. It's completely a personal hunch based on your personal biases as far as I can tell.
Its one of the only conclusions I can reasonably come to as to why they paid him what they paid him two years ago. It was kind of an "i'm sorry" for the Lebron whiff thing. I'm going with my gut on this one. Its just my opinion. Fire away if you disagree.
I bet transplant would look you in the eye and tell you Kirk Hinrich is worth the $4M he was paid. Meanwhile, we got a much better player for the vet minimum.
As far as I know, Hinrich received no apologies from the Bulls nor was he entitled to any. YOU DON'T THINK HINRICH IS GOOD AT BASKETBALL AND THE BULLS DO. This includes Thibodeau, of whom I know you think highly. This is why the Bulls have wanted him on their team. And while you don't know about what other NBA teams have wanted Hinrich on their teams, you choose to believe that there were none, or at least none for the money the Bulls have paid him. As John Lennon said, whatever gets you through the night...
Omigod, what an idiot that transplant is. HaHaHa! It's a matter of record that I didn't think that what the Bulls paid Hinrich in 2012-13 was out of line. I haven't changed my mind. I don't think what the Bulls are paying Hinrich now is out of line either. Laugh it up, funny Boy.
Hey you said it, not me It's not that I think you're an idiot at all, quite the opposite. I just think you won't find anything that management does is wrong or a bad move.
Lemme explain something to you, Denny. When you write something like it's approximately the same as being at a party and talking about someone as if that person isn't there when he is right next to you. It's disrespectful. Does your criticism of me for never finding fault with Bulls' management seem even the least bit ironic to you?
You wrote this. My reaction is Murphy's Law says he will be playing way too many minutes at way too low a level. He was overpaid at $4M, and he's overpaid at BAE. BAE could have gotten us a much better player, and I bet Kirk would have signed for vet minimum. If not, it was nice while it lasted.
Management fucked up, period. The opportunity cost may have been a vet at a position of need, like Marion. We've already seen we can get awesome (for) backups at PG for cheap.
By all accounts I've read, Hinrich's at the room exception of $2.73mil. Since the Bulls were below the cap, they didn't get a BAE.
Btw, I think lack of integrity is why the big name free agents won't come here even for the most we can pay them. They don't want to hear, "I'll pay for a winner." They want to go where the team has proven it will pay to try to build a winner. "I'll pay for a winner." "The check is in the mail." "This won't hurt a bit" (dentist office).
Yes I know, but we're talking about Sager saying something that Boozer told him that the FO told him. Who knows if the Bulls used the word "superstar"? Did the Bulls use the word "superstar" or was that Carlos? Or Sager? Who knows if the Bulls felt Gasol was "too good a superstar to pass up"? And we're talking about someone who complained and said of course the Bulls couldn't trade Boozer this summer because "they told him they were going to amnesty him in June, so he had no trade value because everyone knew he was going to be amnestied". But what Gibson said wasn't true? Pick a lane already.
I didn't believe the Sager report at the time and I haven't changed my mind since. To avoid calling anyone a liar, I'll just say that someone was mistaken.
There was regret though. "I regret the fact that we lost Kirk (Hinrich)," Reinsdorf said in a phone interview. "But if we hadn't moved Kirk, we couldn't have been a player." http://prev.dailyherald.com/story/?id=394087 That quote always struck me as odd. Hinrich isn't an all-star level guy. Its strange to hear Uncle Jerry say that kind of stuff about an average player. I don't recall him saying much over the years about lost players of Hinrich's caliber. Its odd that he was being announced last at the home games last season. Its odd that he's the only non-dynasty Bull I've seen get a supposed-to-be-tear jerking highlight video in his return to the United Center. Ben Gordon didn't get one. Nocioni didn't. I doubt Deng will, but we'll see. The same rules don't apply to Kirk Hinrich, IMO. He's one of Jerry's guys. The pursestrings open for him. He'll be offered a job with the organization when his playing career is over. Why are you yelling at me? I think he's overpaid and has been since after his rookie contract for the mostpart. I don' t think he's bad. When healthy he's a guy that I like to have on the team since he can play the 1 or 2, run the offense for a spell and guard the 1 or 2 for spells. I just think the Bulls overpay for him, since they want him on the team. Not 100% for basketball reasons. ( i would not care about this so much if the bulls org weren't so chincey when the payroll approaches the tax line) Thibs liked Omer Asik and Luol Deng and would still like to have them on the team as well I reckon. I'm sure he likes Kirk since you can play him and not worry so much about defensive matchups and he can do several things average on offense. He's just not worth what the Bulls pay him, IMO. This current contract is closer to what he should make, IMO, but still too much. Hopefully he won't have to play many minutes so that he's effective when he's out there. When they brought Hinrich back, I think they paid whatever it took to get Hinrich back. The goal wasn't to land a passable combo guard at the best price, it was to get Kirk Hinrich, and if you have to pay more, so be it. (IMO) We've seen with Nate, DJ and hopefully Brooks, you can get solid guard play for less than what they pay Hinrich. I don't think the position flexibility is worth what they pay him. Those other guys are more effective at the 1, IMO.
