OT Black Man In Minnesota Dies After Cop Kneels On His Neck/ Portland Riots

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  1. RR7

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    Eye opening? gimme a fucking break. try not to get sand in your eyes when you open them, with your head buried so far.
     
  2. GoBlazersGo

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    Yes, it "really" does... might want to try opening your eyes some more then, my friend.
     
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    Candace Owens? The woman who said Hitler was making Germany great again?

    ABM found the only two African American Trump supporters in the country and decided racism doesn't exist. Maybe check in with the other 99.9 percent?

    And how do you explain racial gaps in prenatal care, early childhood education, schools, housing, environmental pollution, enployment, wages, total wealth, health care, political representation, representation in other positions of power, police violence, life expectancy? Just plain inferior?
     
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    She clarified that point.
     
  5. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Meanwhile, we'll just keep on occupying areas and tearing down communities and monuments, etc., in the name of systemic racism. There's real progress.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I’d hate to see the internet search keywords that brought you to these videos...
     
  8. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Meanwhile, we'll just keep acting like there's not a problem with racism in this country. That's real progress.
     
  9. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Maybe if this country had a leader (interesting thought) who stood up and said, “Hey, we agree with you. There IS A racial injustice problem in America. And we intend to deal with it and these are legal and moral steps we’re going to take to end it once and for all. (An actual, viable plan in other words). And then ask the “resistance” to dial down their militance and work with the administration to get the ball rolling in the right direction. Working for real solutions in other words. That is what a real leader does. Instead we have a child who stamps his feet, makes threats and continues business as usual. And then you wonder why the protests continue. It wouldn’t surprise me if the protests continue until the election and far beyond based on the inaction/disinterest of a conservative (read “racist”) administration and it’s followers.
     
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    Something tells me this isn't going to end well....


    Yes, ABM, There is systemic racism.
     
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    Of course there's a huge problem with racism in this country. Some of it is hard-baked into the "system" due to economic disadvantage that goes all the way back to the end of slavery when a group of people who were thought of by many as objects that could be bought and sold, suddenly were emancipated and left to fend for themselves without any job skills other than what they'd learned on the plantations. Some of it is also the so called, and way too numerous, "bad apple" cops who are racist and use their power in inappropriate and illegal ways simply because they can get away with it.

    With that said, it seems to me that the spotlight is turned almost entirely on the racism part of the police problem right now. Undoubtedly, that's understandable and appropriate given recent events, but I think it's also undeniable that the problems are much larger than that. Gangs, drugs, poverty, prostitution...they all feed into an endless cycle of all-too-often violent interactions within the community and with the police that lead to inflated rates of arrest and incarceration. The calls to defund the police, without programs to address some of these other root problems, also seem to me like a case of head in the sand.
     
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    Conservatives are so proud of themselves when they find a random black person willing to repeat racist or problematic conservative talking points or women willing to repeat sexist conservative talking points.

    Ann Coulter once said that it would be better if women never got the right to vote. Very eye-opening, just another perspective!
     
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    We? You sure aren't participating in any Black Lives Matter protests, are you? And your god emperor is ready to throw people in prison for tearing down monuments to racist traitors. His very fine people.
     
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    Yes, but didn't Obama relate those similar sentiments during his two terms in office? I'm not certain, but it seemed to me things were worse at the end of his terms.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I think it's extremely arguable, your position that racism is the smaller problem and "gangs, drugs, poverty and prostitution" is the larger problem. I think the historical racism in this nation, that continues today in generally different forms has been the much larger problem and has led to far more of all of those things.

    Moreover, I think the more important point is that it's impossible to quantify which the "biggest issue" is, but (while I doubt you intended it as such), white people for generations have ignored addressing racism by saying, "Let's generalize this and address 'bigger' problems that affect everyone in a color-blind way." It's the policy equivalent of "all lives matter." While that's true, black people face unique hurdles in this society and racism is a specific problem that requires more than "let's just attack poverty in general." I totally support anti-poverty initiatives, but that's an entirely separate issue. Addressing systemic racism has to be done as its own, and very high priority, initiative and not drowned out by "But what about poverty? What about drugs?"
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I think you know what I meant. Look around.
     
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    What part of Obama had to deal with a largely white Republican Congress for six out of his eight years don’t you understand???? He was vilified and stymied at every turn. Sound familiar?? At least your guy has his white, racist lap dogs to help him push through an agenda that will hold back the tide of diversity for the foreseeable future. Are you really and truly as obtuse as you make yourself out to be?
     
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    I think it's extremely arguable that I said that racism was the smaller problem, because I didn't. I'm simply pointing out the obvious facts that there are other fish to fry as well.

    I have absolutely no problem with doing everything possible to root out racists and racism wherever they may exist within our police and other government systems. I think attacking that problem right now because of heightened public awareness makes perfect sense. But thinking that, even if you could get rid of racism entirely (which we all know you can't), there's going to be peace in the poorer quarters of our cities without addressing poverty, drugs, gangs, etc. is ridiculous.
     
  20. MARIS61

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    Fake figures.
    Members of one group commit violent crimes at a rate 6 times the number of the other group, yet you leave this out because facts don't support your propaganda.

    2900 people in one group were murdered in 2018.

    2600 of them were murdered by members of that same group.

    300 of them were murdered by members of other groups.

    Thousands of people from all groups were saved by police from murder by people from all groups.
     

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