Blah blah blah income inequality

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  1. Paine Tablet

    Paine Tablet Well-Known Member

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    You are right, neoliberal reforms do nothing to concentrate wealth at the top. They do nothing to exploit third-world countries in a macro game similar to the micro game we play at home. Reagan, Clinton, W,Obama(conservatives or centrists) had nothing to do with neoliberal reform. You are right. I make no sense.
     
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    What is the point of doing that when at no point in history has it been tried with a modern industrial juggernaut?
     
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    Every time a country moves in that direction, the U.S. & Europe label the leader a dictator, then use military might to overthrow his system.
     
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    Which is precisely a great argument for anyone who uses failed socialist states as a model or as a point of reference. Of course, when the world's economic power is doing everything possible legally and illegally to subvert you, you are bound to fail.
     
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    There would be no such thing as an industrial juggernaut without this terrible "greed".

    So thank you for proving my point.
     
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    Liberté, égalité, fraternité

    Turned out great.

    Reign of terror. Napoleon.
     
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    not gonna be fun, i agree
     
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    Irrelevant to whom? A medieval equivalent to this statement, would be to say as long as the peasants have their huts, bread, and an ox to pull the plow, they shouldn't complain about their share of the wealth. Who cares if you have royalty living in luxury while the peasants live in squalor.

    You. Can't. Be. Fucking. Serious.

    It's poor people's fault that they don't invest money they don't have? People live pay check to paycheck, but they would have more money if they invested their money in the stock market. Wow! Pull your head out of your ass.
     
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    It is irrelevant to everyone except those who are petty and jealous. People are not peasants in huts, with just bread, and an ox to pull the plow. A full 2/3 of the population does not work at all - in a peasant world 100% would.

    No matter what size your paycheck, if you pay yourself first, 10% off the top, you won't be living paycheck to paycheck and you will survive and thrive.

    It is a lame excuse that people don't have the money to invest.
     
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    http://beginnersinvest.about.com/cs/personalfinance1/a/051701a.htm

    Money, like water, expands to fill the container in which it is placed. If you lack an objective set of financial goals for your life, you probably reach the end of each month and find yourself broke. You vow that next month will be different, but it never is.

    This scenario is certainly one with which millions of people can identify. Fortunately, it doesn't have to be that way. One of the most powerful and effective strategies for building wealth is to pay yourself first.
     
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    Some people think that paying God first is a decent way to go about it...

     
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    this seemed appropriate, also. It's similar to how I spend the first decade or so of my life. Clotheslines, coupons, hand-me-downs, patches in clothes instead of new clothes, etc.

    I don't know that homeschooling has a lot to do with it, since public schooling doesn't cost very much.
     
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    she saved 30k in 2 years, when they make 14k a year?

    wow, she really is a savvy coupon clipper
     
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    no, she saved 30k while he was in Iraq, making what a deployed soldier makes. Now that he's out of the Army and using only his GI bill benefits (which are only 14k a year) she's making do on only that 14k.

    An E-5 with 8 years in (I don't know that that's what he was, but it's probably within 10% or so either way) makes 2800 a month in base pay and probably another 1000 or so in housing allowance (with kids), depending on his home of record. While in Iraq that would've been tax-free, and he probably got hostile fire pay and family separation pay for another 500 a month. Not a stretch to think his wife could save 30K over a couple of deployments.
     
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    not a stretch at all

    4300 a month tax free is prolly not "check to check" but who knows

    and living on 14k a year whith no rent or mortgage is alot easier than it sounds
     
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    I'm glad we agree that you make no sense.
     
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    In other words, all wealth--no matter who generated it--belongs to everyone, to be distributed as the majority sees fit? Wow. Where'd you get that drivel, a 1960s issue of Pravda?
     
  19. Paine Tablet

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    Who distributes wealth is another away of saying who sets budgets and tax policy. I claim that it is the people who should decide and you assume I'm a communist. It doesn't quite follow.
     
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    How else would you explain growing inequality in wealth and income between the top and the bottom if not for tax reforms and trade reforms that happened on the watch of those listed presidents?
     

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