Blake vs Miller December stats

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  1. roydezlaw

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    Re: Blave vs Miller December stats

    That's right. Our smalls need to stop penetrating bigs and our bigs need to stop penetrating smalls. Is it as confusing for them as it is for me? Aldridge looked like a good trailer on some of those Varejao baskets.

    I do agree with you. We need better team defense because man to man sucks.
     
  2. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Look, it's patently obvious that Blake is played because
    1. He does what he's told
    2. He gets out of Roy's way
    3. He plays defense better than any other guard on the roster. (This is BAD, because he's not a top tier defender. Nonetheless, it is true, as seen in that Synergy analysis.)

    Want Blake to play less? Teach the other guards to play defense. That's it.

    Blake and Outlaw for Hinrich REALLY needs revisiting. (Then Bayless would get minutes because Hinrich's always injured.)
     
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    Re: Blave vs Miller December stats

    Miller has the ball in his hands a lot more than Blake does. I'm trying to understand your point, but I can't. If the idea was the Miller was going to distribute the ball as the primary ball handler, then that has not happened. In fact, Blake is putting up nearly the same assists/36 as the secondary ball handler.

    So, if Miller is more efficient creating his own shot, and is helping the team in doing so, then what is the problem? Let him play well as the back-up SG/hybrid.
     
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    Re: Blave vs Miller December stats

    I wish you'd use hyperbole more often. It seems to be your thing.
     
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    Hinrich is shooting 34%,, 29% fro 3, yes THIRTY FOUR% this yr, a couple % worse than Blakey, I say no thx with his bloated contract! Are you kiddin me?
     
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    Re: Blave vs Miller December stats

    Miller is more efficient at both scoring and passing. The Assist Rate shows that more of Miller's possessions used result in an assist than Blake's possessions used. Blake is the one playing more like a reserve combo guard. Let Miller play well as a starting guard, since he's the second-best guard on the team. Let him play 35-40 minutes, play with Roy and let these two talented players figure it out. On-court chemistry only happens when players play together for a while and figure out how best to play off each other.
     
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    Simple question: do people think we'd win more if Blake's minutes were taken by Miller or Bayless? If so, on what basis?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'm just going to go with "gut instinct" :wink:
     
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    I think they'd be a better team and thus win more, on the basis of Miller having been a better player throughout his career and Bayless both being a high-caliber prospect and having outperformed Blake this season.

    Obviously, what one thinks of Bayless is speculative as he hasn't proven anything yet over a meaningful sample. But his prospect pedigree combined with his good play so far this season leads me to believe that he has an attainable-this-season upside above Blake's current level.

    If the Blazers were a title contender right now, I might value Blake's certainty as not a game-loser over Bayless' possible downside to go with his upside, in the reserve role. Since this season is lost in terms of title contention, I'd rather play the guy with the higher upside to see what he can be counted on for next season, presumably a title contention season.
     
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    Yep, because of Offense, Blake offer no offensive threat and his shooting and scoring simply suck, both Bayless and Miller are threats and take pressure off other players and lead to better shots, and they bot get to the FT line well. Blake takes space on offense, that is all. He may be a better defender but not nearly to make up for his horrible offense.
     
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    Re: Blave vs Miller December stats

    Agree with you there. He's been effective as a backup SG, and a nightmare as a PG.

    As for Blake, if he were in the second unit I would expect his scoring would be similar to Miller's since he wouldn't have to defer to Roy and Aldridge.
     
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    Re: Blave vs Miller December stats

    Since Roy almost always hesitates of dribbles before shooting, Blake's assist ratio appears far smaller than it actually is. If Roy could catch and shoot better, Blake's assists would double.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Re: Blave vs Miller December stats

    Blake is GOAT.
     
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    its truly pathetic...
     
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    Re: Blave vs Miller December stats

    One of the more amusing comments I've seen in quite a while.
     

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