Blazer Cap-Space This Summer

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  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Damn. Crabbe keeps rawdogging us.
     
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    Agreed
     
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    lol....Mule deer in Central Or
     
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    I would absolutely love to see a Nurk trade in the next 22 hours. At the same time, I would love to see an Ant trade in the next 22 hours. Nurk has all of the problems that you guys are talking about and I am betting Ant has some pretty high value with some GMs right now. He won't have this high of value after we overpay him and then play him with Dame which will highlight Ant's lack of offensive versatility and terrible defense. If we're building around Dame just be smart and get the most value you can for Ant now. Also both guys are good enough to fuck up the tank on any given night.
     
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    Trade all three and build around an injured NAS.
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    Oh goodie more solid role players that’ll be so different than the last five years
     
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    I really would trade all three if I was the GM at this point.

    I don't believe we will get the pieces requisite to make a Dame led team a contender just by clearing cap space and either hoping the world flips on its axis and we become a free agency destination or we conjure the right assets out of thin air to make unbalanced trades that bring us enough star power that fits with Dame. I think when the decision was made to value cap space above talent and draft assets when trading away the four players we did, we closed Dame's window.

    I like Ant but I really believe that a couple weeks ago his trade value might have peaked for his whole career because it was higher than it probably is right now and teams that traded for him then or for the next just under 22 hours have the ability to negotiate his next contract with the advantage of restricted free agency. Even if we don't retain him I hope he proves me wrong because he's got a great attitude but I definitely know that playing next to Dame is not the best use of what he has to offer. If I was going to keep anyone it would be Ant... not to build around but to be a complementary piece around whoever I got for Dame and hopefully whoever we get in the draft.

    I think Nurk is Nurk and I don't think he's a good guy to have on your team. Too much bullshit. Bullshit with his up and down attitude. Bullshit that he only plays the right way some of the time. Just bullshit. Obviously he's extremely talented and skilled he just refuses to use those talents and skills in effective ways far more consistently than he chooses to use them in the most effective ways.
     
  8. illmatic99

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    One RFA I really like is Miles Bridges. Also a Klutch guy.

    I like him more than Ayton.
     
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    With what assets? Nurk is all we have left and picks/space. Unless we are dumb AF and also trade Ant and/or Little.
     
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    Wow just nuke the site from orbit and uh hope we draft our way out? I mean you don't even want to keep Ant in the case where we trade Dame? Da fuq? Trading Dame a few days ago MIGHT have made sense. Trading Dame AND Ant is just well fuck me that's brutal and like a 7+ year plan for contention.
     
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    You'd trade Dame, Ant, Nas and/or Nurk? And rebuild with what? Picks? Hope to get lucky again over the next decade+++? Good god!
     
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    Lmao so you wouldn’t give up either of those players for superstar? We could now do Ant plus two expiring contracts plus draft picks and get player Simmons. Philly then has cap room and signs Harden in off season
     
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    Lets See.....
    SacTown
    OKC
    Houston
    Detroit
    Orlando
    That is the plan imo.
     
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    if we give up Ant we are back to Square one. We basically are committed to him becoming a star or giving up on Dame’s timeline. Nas I would trade for a Simmons yes.
     
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    i love Ants game and probably agree he’d be tough to give up but Little is definitely not untouchable especially for superstar. That said I would love to keep Little he’s one of my favorite players to watch on this team but again not untouchable.
     
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    so this is it.

    Not much else to look forward to between now and the lottery.
     
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    Theres always the game to look forward too.
     
  18. illmatic99

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    Hart's contract becomes fully guaranteed two days after the draft on 6/25, and about a week BEFORE FA begins.

    Bledsoe's contract becomes guaranteed six days after the draft on 6/29, 2 days BEFORE FA begins.

    Considering how rampant tampering is, I hope Cronin does what we need to do to have our plan set in place for what we'll do with capspace/the TPE before these key dates.
     
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    Someone posted a Bobby Marks tweet about Bledsoe guarantee date being moved to after free agency, which would be a huge benefit if true.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    i responded to that yesterday, but Spotrac had 6/29.
     

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