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  1. hoopsjock

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    Bucks board with another doozy....

    Bucks get: Zach Collins
    Bucks send: Donte, 2nd

    Magic get: Donte, Turner, Blazers 1st, Bucks 2nd
    Magic send: Aaron Gordon

    Blazers get: Gordon
    Blazers send: Collins, Turner, 1st

    I'm not a big Aaron Gordon fan but his contract isn't terrible (actually decreases each year) and we get rid of Turner. It's tough to give up both Collins and a 1st so I could see this one either way. I'm guessing a few of you would love this.
     
    hoopsjock, Jan 7, 2019
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    They think DD and a 2nd is worth Zach? They've got to be insane.

    If Turner, DD, and 2 picks gets Gordon, then you just cut the Bucks out of that deal entirely, and figure a way to do out without losing Zach.
     
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    IF the Magic would do this, could we get the Pelicans involved and reroute Aaron Gordon there?

    Bucks get Zach Collins

    Magic get Turner, DiVincenzo, Tim Frazier, Blazers 1st, and Bucks 2nd

    Pelicans get CJ and Aaron Gordon

    Blazers get Anthony Davis and Solomon Hill

    CJ and Aaron Gordon seems like okay value for AD, maybe?
     
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    Yeah, I agree. The only problem is then that pairs Bamba and Zach (assuming he's the prospect) on the Magic and that would be scary if they both developed.
     
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    Once again, I'd cut the Bucks out. Zach/CJ/Gordon for Davis? Not a bad haul for the Pels.
     
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    I typed that before seeing your response to cut the Bucks out. If the Pelicans got Zach too why the heck would the Magic do the deal?
     
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    True, but we can't operate in fear. If we believe that Zach will become better than Gordon is, then we just don't make the deal. But if we want to get better in the here and now--that deal accomplishes that goal.
     
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    All Bucks give up is DiV & 2nd rounder?
     
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    Doing a little deeper dive on Gordon, I'm not super impressed with his numbers. They should be better considering he plays on a bad team.
     
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    True. Maybe we send them Simons. Or the Pels send them Diallo instead of Frazier.

    Either way, the Bucks are superfluous
     
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    Obviously Bucks fans still think he has value since he was just picked 17th in the draft.
     
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    To be fair, a lot of other fan bases probably don't see much value for Collins either.
     
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    His usage rate dropped a bit this year. Vucevic balling out in a contract year, maybe? Still, his TS% is surprisingly low.
     
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    Yeah, a little too low for my liking but if we are shipping him to the Pelicans who cares, right? :bgrin:
     
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    Still, he's a big who can defend, and is relatively efficient. As opposed to DD, who's a shooting guard who can't shoot.
     
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    Okay so lets say we get the deal done with some combo of Zach, CJ, Turner, and a 1st round pick headed out with Solomon Hill and Anthony Davis coming back.

    Then do the Leonard and Stauskas for Courtney Lee trade idea?

    Starters: Dame, Lee, Harkless, AD, Nurk

    Bench: Baldwin, Curry, Layman, Aminu, Swanigan

    Deep Bench: Hill, Trent, Simons with 2 open roster spots to add some big man depth?

    I think that would create just under a $10 million trade exception we could use to find someone for the last couple spots.
     
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    Probably not. Roll with this:

    Lillard (36) / Curry (12) / Baldwin / Simons
    McCollum (35) / Curry (13) / Trent
    Layman (20) / Harkless (28) / Hill
    Davis (18) / Aminu (30) / Swanigan
    Nurkic (31) / Davis (17) / Meyers
     
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    I'm fine with letting Collins go. He's not going to develop properly here. And I'm not convinced that he's ever going to be better than a bench player. He absolutely sucks at playing Defense in the paint, and he's not a world beater at shooting either.

    I'm fine with this, but I highly doubt we're getting AD. And even if by some miracle we did, I doubt he would stick around past a season. I think we would have to get deep into the playoffs for him to stick around. Not impossible with that starting lineup, but I'm also not sure Stotts can do it.
     
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    Big problem there Bones, how did we get Davis without giving up CJ?
     
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    I would rather re-sign Aminu for around 10-11 mil than acquire Gordon for 54 mil for the next 3 years. Maybe we can make Aminu a 4 year 42-45 mil with a 4th year team option. Losing Collins and a 1st round pick is the killer.
     
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