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  1. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    It makes us smaller. And Lin sucks. Our 2nd unit would get crushed.
     
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    I'll piggyback onto this with the numbers:

    Damian Lillard $29,802,321
    CJ McCollum $27,556,959
    Evan Turner $18,606,557
    Jusuf Nurkic $12,000,000
    Maurice Harkless $11,511,234
    Meyers Leonard $11,286,515
    Zach Collins $4,240,200
    Anfernee Simons $2,149,560
    Caleb Swanigan $2,033,160
    Gary Trent $1,416,852
    Andrew Nicholson $2,844,429
    Anderson Varejao $1,913,345
    Festus Ezeli $333,333

    $125,694,465

    so, about 125.7M for 10 players. The tax line has been projected to be around 132M, but there have also been some very recent reports that attendance and revenue are down. So probably, at the most, the Blazers would start out only 6M below the tax line, and perhaps only 4-5M. But 10 players is 2 below the minimum, so, at the minimum, Portland would be assessed 2 roster charges of about 900K each. So that could drop Portland no-tax margin to somewhere in the 2-5M range. Now, if Portland uses their first round pick and it's somewhere in the 22-26 range, the 1st year salary would be around 2M. That eliminates one roster charge, but that still drops the no-tax margin into the 1-4M range, and they'd still have to add 3 players. Even with 3 minimum contracts, Portland would very likely be over the tax line

    and that doesn't count Aminu, Layman, Curry, Stauskas, or Baldwin. All this with ownership likely in limbo

    go back to the scenario where Portland uses their first round pick and they then re-sign Layman for...say 5M 1st year salary. They'd almost certainly be over the tax line. Worse, they'd be in the apron....with 2 more players needed

    I really have a hard time imagining the Vulcans authorizing any tax next season, much less a significant amount of tax, especially if Portland fails in the playoffs again. So, what if both Aminu and Layman get offers topping 7M in 1st year salary? What if Curry gets offered 5M?

    my hunch is that Portland is actively looking at ways to reduce salary next season, much like they were when they shopped Plumlee 2 years ago and Vonleh last year. Looking at that projected payroll for Portland, the tax implications, and the ownership situation, I think it's pretty imperative the Blazers increase that no-tax margin as much as they can. And if it requires the 1st round pick this year, so be it, just add it to the sunk cost of that 2016 idiocy
     
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    I forgot, ET is like the best player in the league and our bench is so amazing as it is!
     
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    Cousins is back...Kerr and Bell are not getting along....Swanigan for Bell maybe....throw in a pick. Not sure what Warriors fans say about it
     
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    Yup, this is exactly why I don't understand the people who want to just wait to have those contracts expire. You risk losing Aminu, Layman, and Curry this summer without being able to add much to replace them. In my scenario we could potentially keep all 3 while staying under the tax line and possibly adding someone using the MLE too.

    The only thing I'll say against the tax situation is that theoretically they could wait as late as the trade deadline next year to cut salary but that is a huge risk that teams would both be willing and able to accept unbalanced trades to help you shed money. Because of the desperation it would probably cost more too.
     
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    Not a great bench. But better than the abomination you’re suggesting.
     
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    Switching out Turner for Lin makes it an abomination?
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Absolutely.
     
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    Let me ask you a question for next year:

    Which of these groups would you rather have?

    Evan Turner
    Maurice Harkless
    Meyers Leonard
    1st round pick (currently 22nd)

    or

    Al-Farouq Aminu
    Jake Layman
    Taurean Prince
    Skal Labissiere
    Seth Curry
    Full-MLE
     
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    Assets will have to be given up to move those contracts we have. So its either we have a chance to lose assets in FA because the money to spend on them wont be there or its you lose assets to get ride of the salary so players have a shot at being resigned. Personally i'v never been a fan of trading assets to get rid of salary unless we your eyeing a big FA signing.
     
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    Not in the trade idea we were discussing...

    It was Harkless and Leonard for Prince, Lin, and Len

    No picks, no assets.
     
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    I’ll take door #1 plus Jake.
     
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    That wasn't an option.
     
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    Plus, Aminu, Layman and Curry can likely be re-signed so put them in category 1 as well if the Blazers choose and then still have till the deadline to move assets (expiring contracts) to lower the salary and the following year we could have the full mle and possibly more.
     
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    It is for me.
     
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    Okay, so hypothetically you're the GM and Jody Allen warns you now that she is not willing to pay tax next year and would prefer to not even get near the tax line. She does this now so you have extra time to make that happen.

    You decide to keep ET, Harkless, and Leonard because you think they're expiring contracts are worth something.

    Day one of free agency Jake Layman signs a 3 year, $21 million deal with the Nets meaning if you match you are over the tax line without even filling out your roster so you have to decline the offer sheet.

    What do you do then?
     
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    Match.
     
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    You suck at being GM and are fired, lol.
     
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