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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    I saw an Orlando board that suggested different trades for Vucevic and Fournier and one of them was for CJ. I'd still rather keep CJ unless there was a 3rd team willing to take Vucevic for a good wing or a pick in the 10-17 range. Still not in the range to get me to let go of CJ yet though.
     
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    Was it CJ for Both Fournier and Vucevic because that’s kind of an intriguing deal, not sure Id do it but I would think about it.
     
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    No thanks. Fournier mighty be a worse defender than CJ. The package needs to office a lotto pick and/or a two-way player.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Why? I'm a bench role, Davis is almost as good as Vucevic, and Vucevic has stated before he doesn't want to come off the bench. Fournier is worse than CJ in almost every aspect of the game.. I wouldn't even think about that for a second.
     
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    That's so dumb. Why wouldnt we just take back Kawhi? So silly.
     
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    I spent over an hour working on a deal that would send Vucevic to NY as part of this deal along with Harkless and we'd get Courtney Lee, Joakim Noah, the #9 pick, and probably a future pick from Orlando. Since we had too many centers I thought I'd use the #24 pick with Swanigan and Leonard to trade for someone with one year left on their deal like Jeremy Lin. So we ended up with Dame, Baldwin, Lin, Lee, Fournier, Bridges, Turner, Layman, Aminu, Collins, Nurk, Davis, Noah, and PapaG plus adding another shooter with the tax-MLE. However looking at that lineup it didn't seem much better and the payroll was over $150 million. Unless Mikal Bridges turned out to be a complete game changer I didn't think that team had much more potential than the current team so I decided to delete it.
     
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    I’d rather have Parker and Middleton for CJ and Aminu/Harkless. Trading CJ for two players potentially on their last year of their deal scares me, which I’m pretty sure Middleton has an opt out after next season and Bledsoe is a UFA in 2019.

    A Parker and Collins front court makes my pants tight.
     
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    Parker is a restricted free agent so there is basically a 0% chance of acquiring him this summer.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    So we get Fournier, Lee, Noah, and #9 for CJ and Harkless? I'm not a fan of that. Maybe have ORL give us #5 and they can have 9.
     
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    Yeah, they wouldn't do that. It's why I gave up on it.
     
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    I'd actually have to really think about that one. In that link you posted there is a similar version in which instead of Harkless and Leonard it is Turner and Swanigan. I like that DeRozan is locked up for 2-3 years, unlike Kawhi, but I don't like to have SG's that can't shoot 3 pointers very well. Ibaka isn't worth his contract but at least he only has two years left like Turner. No one could complain about having a small back court anymore or having two plays with too similar of skill sets because Dame and DeMar are completely different styles.

    I still prefer if we trade CJ for it to provide more of a future plan with draft picks and/or young players but this wouldn't be terrible.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    There's actually a guy over on Liberty Ballers who thinks that Ben Simmons got exposed by the Celtics and will never be good. Some fans are so fucking stupid. He even suggested trading him for Andrew Wiggins, Devin Booker, or................

    CJ McCollum LOL. Um yes please! Let's hope this poster is Colangelo.
     
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    I don't think he got exposed. I just think he has a lot to work on in the off-season. aka not just developing a jumper.

    He did have mental lapses, especially down the stretch of game 5 tho.
    I understand he was playing with 5, but he still has to at least try to guard his man.
    Instead he let Tatum blow right by him for a straight line layup, then the next possession watched as Tatum cut infront of the rim and got the ball for another easy layup.
    Gotta still play defense, and worse case. Foul out. Cause you can't give up wide open layups.(tatum did miss the first, but Rozier was in position to clean up the miss)

    Don't really know if Simmons will turn into defender like LBJ can be when he wants to.
    Rozier did have a really good game 1 with Simmons as the primary defender.
    But I think it has more to do with being a rookie, than lack of ability.
     
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    I know Wiggins sucks BUT Minnesota fans seem to want him gone bad and are resigned to the fact that they won't even get anything worthwhile back for him. They just want to dump his contract.

    Would you guys take Wiggins if we only had to give up some combination of Aminu, Harkless, Turner, Leonard, and picks?

    Edit: We'd probably have to also take back Dieng and Aldrich as well.
     
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    Here is an interesting one from a Philly fan...

    Sixers send: SF Robert Covington, SG Jerry’d Bayless and Combo guard Markelle Fultz and two second rounder 39 and 60.

    Blazers send: SG C.J. McCollum and PF/C Caleb Swingan

    I think we'd have to use the TPE to take Bayless in this scenario. I doubt Colangelo would do this because it is basically admitting he screwed up taking Fultz. I'd love to try and make a few tweaks to the trade like trying to get the rights to Bolden but I think I would do this trade.

    Dame/Fultz/Covington/Aminu/Nurk

    Baldwin/Turner/Harkless/Collins/Davis

    Leonard/Bayless/#24/#39

    One roster spot left for either PapaG, Layman, Pat, Napier, tax-MLE, or the smaller TPE. Obviously we could make other moves too.
     
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    In that scenario, Fultz and Saric would be my ideal package.
     
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    Yeah, good luck with that.
     
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    They wouldn’t even trade Saric for CJ straight up I think.
     
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