Notice Blazers draft Greg Brown!

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  1. Pinwheel1

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    Agree, just not this year. He only weighs 205. Although not really a huge factor against stretch 4s.
     
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    Early returns make it look like another Olshey home run. So far, on track to contribute in year 2 or 3.
     
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    "home run"? maybe a base hit, and if you're a bit homerish a double.

    Olshey has a good batting average in the 2nd round, but he's hit singles and dinks mostly, and maybe a double once (Trent). Might have stolen a base trading trent for powell. Got caught stealing though trading barton & a 1st for Afflalo. And he got tossed for using pine tar when he matched Crabbe's offer sheet

    Since Olshey has been Portland's GM, these guys have been drafted in the 2nd round:

    Draymond Green
    Khris Middleton
    Jae Crowder
    Joe Harris
    Spenser Dinwiddie
    Jerami Grant
    Nicola Jokic
    Jordan Clarkson
    Montazel Harrell
    Josh Richardson
    Richaun Holmes
    Norman Powell
    Malcolm Brogdon
    Thomas Bryant
    Dillon Brooks
    Jalen Brunson
    Devonte Graham

    now those are home runs with an occasional triple thrown in

    Maybe baseball is a poor analogy. Maybe poker is better. Olshey sure seems to be calling Dame's bluff even before the first flop
     
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    ridiculous.
    1) The median 2nd rounder plays in the league 2 years or less. Most of Olshey's 2nd rounders are around MUCH longer than that.
    2) Undoubtedly most, if not all, of the players on your list were simply drafted. The GMs flipped a crooked coin which is randomly going to come up heads every once in a while. Finding a $20 bill on the ground is fortuitous - not a home run. Olshey, OTOH, often goes AFTER players he likes in the 2nd round.
    3) IMHO, getting a rotation player for a playoff team is a home run. You can quibble about it (everyone here, including me, loves to quibble) saying it's "only a double". A legit opinion, but not mine.

     
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    Not really. I mean, he's playing the 4 for us because we don't have one. He's best suited for the 3. Perfect size.
     
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    He's a 4...he played the 5 for the Rockets alot..same height as Greg Brown I believe...
     
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    lol...sure...I'm ridiculous, yet you're the one calling Brown a home run after 5 summer league games?
     
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    Except that his advanced stats as a small forward are much better than at power forward. Also, he played much of his career as a small forward.

    You really like bringing up advanced stats so this should matter to you.
     
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    ?? we have 3 guys 6'8....one on a two way....somebody sawe don't have another PF....we do..stats or not. You have me confused with the S2 moneyball crowd...I don't need to know his rookie free throw percentage from back in the day or why he put up numbers with the Wolves...I am interested in who he is right now.....Roco is the same height as Big Ben Wallace...he and Norm and Nurk will build some chemistry with the starting unit and we should be good at the 4...Snell is 6'6 I believe so he'll probably back Nas and Norm at the 3...I think we'll target another backup 4 at the deadline
     
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    or, more accurately, only two guys, other than the injury-prone C's, who are 6'7 or taller on the 13 man roster
     
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    I like Brown. He's definitely worth a two-year flyer to gauge his progress and potential. I think it will come down to how dedicated he is and the quality of his training. I agree his complete focus these next two years should be as a 3 and D player. That will get him on the court, where the real education begins.

    :cheers:
     
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    His future is in the G-League FAMS.
     
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    You said this about Dame too I'm pretty sure didn't you? His rookie year he wouldn't play....isn't that the line?
     
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    I will admit I wanted Austin rivers over Dame that draft, and Harrison Barnes over Meyers, but I don’t think I ever said Dame wouldn’t play. You have to find those posts son.
     
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    but...but...rookies don't see the court!!! it's your chant every season with first year players! Even Alan Crabbe saw the court and he was a second round pick......we need a PF....Brown will get the Noah Vonleh treatment at least
     
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    I don’t think so. Roco is a 3 playing the 4 in my opinion.
     
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    This year sure. He has potential though. I don’t know what kind of head he has on his shoulders, but if he’s smart and a hard worker he could become a good player.
     
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    Roco defends the best player on the other team which is often a 3 but he is a 4 in our lineup...just like Chief was...Roco and Nurk have only played a handful of games together...when they get some chemistry he'll look better at the 4 on offense...he's a stretch 4
     
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    The thing is, RoCo is an adequate PF -- almost exclusively due to his defensive versatility -- but would be a fantastic SF if we had a legit PF alongside him. Just because he has played PF in flawed small ball lineups here and in Houston doesn't make that his best position.
     
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    You may be right, but my feeling is the opposite. RoCo is actually not very good at moving his feet.
     

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