Blazers looking at Oberto

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Theoretically, sure. But for his potentially limited stopgap role, I want the guy that fits best. With his good passing skills and high bbiq, I give more value to the intangibles in this case.

    Given the amount of finals experience in the NBA, world championships, and numerous other international tournaments, he blows Ericka out of the water.
     
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    How so? Oberto is 35 years-old, he had a PER of 5.7 last year, and his per/36 rebound rate was 5.8. I just don't see what benefit the Blazers get from him, 'intangibles'-wise or otherwise.

    Dampier is still a productive player, while Oberto seems washed up, at least looking at their producation last season.
     
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    Wasn't he injured for most of last year (much like Howard was before he came here last season)? And he clearly did not care much for playing in Washington. I don't know if he's washed up, but I'd take the Oberto of 07-09 to be our third string center. And citing PER and per 36 stats for a guy who played such sporadic minutes ( http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3988/gamelog) seems awfully silly to me.
     
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    Oberto seems more likely to accept a role of backup for now, and then wearing a suit later in the year, and Dampier seems more like he might complain about that sort of situation.
     
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    How many PER points does a properly set screen register? How many PER does blocking out your man so another guy can get the rebound register? How many PER points does effecting a shot but not blocking it register? PER does not tell the whole story. Yet if Oberto did those things why he was in with a 2nd unit, he would be doing what he needed to succeed on the team, along with the stats that do register in the PER stat tracking.
     
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    We're looking to bring a guy in to play, at most, 10 MPG for hopefully no more than two weeks. If one can be signed to a one-year deal, while Dampier is holding out for two, then it's a no-brainer. Beyond this first month or two, neither should ever see the court.
     
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    I will not rise to such blatant trolling.

    For a more recent (i.e., this Summer) game involving Oberto (and also two of my fave non-NBA PGs, and Luis Scola going totally crazy), I give you The Battle of the Past and Present Spurs Centers:

    [video=youtube;8RjxZSs4l6g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RjxZSs4l6g[/video]


    Dampier is quite old, but Oberto almost as old. Plus, Oberto was worthless last season.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Fabs definitely has fab hair, but I'd rather have Dampier.
     
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    Don't we have 15 players after we waive Patty? Unless we get an injury exception for Pendy or perhaps just cut Pendy, otherwise I think we are full.

    I would like to see us get a PF/C untill Pryz or Oden comes back. I'd expect Camby to miss at least a game, possibly a few. I don't want to see LA and Dante as our only bigs with Babbit backing up the C spot and Batum getting beat around at PF.

    Dampier is the more intriguing player to me personally, but if the team believes Oberto will fit in as a better 15th man than I understand going that direction. Either way just getting any big could be the difference in this team winning some games.
     
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    Citing "intangibles" seems rather silly to me. ;)
     
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    Hmm

    Roy
    Aldridge
    Oden
    Batum
    Miller
    Matthews
    Bayless
    Babbitt
    Cunningham
    Pendergraph
    Przybilla
    Camby
    Johnson
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    That's 15 right there, so waiving Mills still leaves over. Who is the odd guy out, Rudy or Jeff?
     
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    Good God. Toughen up.
     
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    Gotta be Pendy, right?

    I don't understand the details of the injury exception. Would it work in this case?
     
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    I would assume if there is no trade lined up to clear a spot, cutting Pendergraph makes the most sense. Limited bird rights aren't going to matter with him. Just be nice and allow him to rehab and recover here, or with our staff, if he chooses.
     
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    Sure, assuming last year was an outlier and not the start (or completion) of a collapse, I would too. I'd just prefer Dampier, because he (or Oberto) may well be the second-string center for a while and if the worst happened (like Camby getting injured) then he could even be our starter.

    While that is true of any third-stringer, it's more of an issue when all our centers have serious injury risk. We're looking for someone to fill the Juwan Howard spot, and Howard was playing big minutes for Portland last season at times.

    And yes, PER doesn't measure intangibles. I really don't think there's an "intangibles" edge that really matters here, but that's subjective enough not to be worth arguing over.
     
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    Sure, Fabio isn't a bad little signing. As long as he knows his role with the team is keeping the end of the bench warm.
     
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    If they wanted to be nice about it, they would let him rehad and recover with the Suns staff.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I'm going to buy some Oberto beef jerkey. Much more satisfying.
     

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