Blazers Looking To Move Into The Lottery?

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  1. PapaG

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    How many drafts in modern NBA history have yielded 10 All-Stars??
     
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    My scout friend has been wrong, how?

    He wasn't the person I heard that from. Please explain where he has been so wrong?
     
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    Here is the Russillo article. Three scouts all name Embiid as the player with the most potential. Mock away, "experts."

    http://grantland.com/the-triangle/r...l-scouts-on-wiggins-randle-embiid-and-parker/

     
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    Hahaha. No wonder you laughed.....stupid auto correct on my phone. 4-6
     
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    If you want to look at it as them rewarding him for playing so well you can but it seems more like a play to make sure that one of two things happens 1) they keep him with a fairly nice extension 2) they get something for him if they must lose him. Because if they didn't decline his option and went into next year with him making a million they have a chance at losing him for nothing.
    I'm not exactly sure where the google comment comes in. If your talking about holding out its the overseas guys who do it, you can play like crap and force a trade aka the Vince Carter method, the pout so much the team asks you to not show up for awhile like Houston did with Asik but the players can't do anything like refuse to show up because they want a pay raise.
     
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    Want to know the answer?

    ZERO

    Apparently, according to Mediocre Man's "scout friend," this is the greatest draft ever.
     
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    I can see this draft when its all said and done having 6-8 guys who made an allstar team. I think it only has about 5 who have the potential to be an AS more then once but there is a lot of very high potential guys in this draft and you only have to light it up for half a year to make an AS team.
     
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    1996 is the only one I can think of.

    1. Allen Iverson
    2. Shareef Abdur-Rahim
    3. Stephon Marbury
    4. Ray Allen
    5. Antoine Walker
    6. Kobe Bryant
    7. Peja Stojakovic
    8. Steve Nash
    9. Jermaine O'Neal
    10. Zydrunas Ilgauskas

    Plus this draft had Marcus Camby and Derek Fisher. I honestly think this was probably the best draft in the history of the NBA.
     
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    So it's in the top 5 drafts of the lottery era? That still leaves 3/4 of the first-round pick who will never be All-Stars...
     
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    Good find. I forgot the 1996 draft. Funny thing is, I wouldn't trade any of those players for LMA except for Kobe Bryant. Nash and Iverson are a no, unless you're trading Lillard for that pick.
     
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    Dammit

    6-8
     
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    In terms of players I think will be able to contribute to teams and not be out of the league in 3 to 4 years then yea

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    It was a very guard heavy draft. A few Hall of Famers in there. I'd love to have Ray Allen in his prime. Other than that, I'm not a huge fan of Iverson, Marbury, Walker, or Abdur-Rahim. Peja would be great in Stotts system. So would Nash actually.
     
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    Let's look at the draft position of the All-Stars in the 1996 draft.

    1. Allen Iverson - 1st
    2. Shareef Abdur-Rahim - 3rd
    3. Stephon Marbury - 4th
    4. Ray Allen -5th
    5. Antoine Walker -6th
    6. Kobe Bryant - 13th
    7. Peja Stojakovic - 14th
    8. Steve Nash - 15th
    9. Jermaine O'Neal - 17th
    10. Zydrunas Ilgauskas - 20th
    11. Ben Wallace - undrafted

    The best player in that draft was picked #13, and outside of Iverson, the rest of the Top 6 were role players for good teams, or "franchise" players for bad teams. It could be argued that picking outside of the lottery in that draft was better than having anything other than the #1 pick.

    So, even in the deepest draft in the modern NBA, there were several misses high in the draft, considering who was picked behind those players.
     
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    Shit, I didn't even realize that Wallace was in that draft. Also, Marcus Camby was picked #2 but never made an All-Star team and Derek Fisher was taken in the late first round.
     
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    Who would you even target with like a late top ten pick if you traded Batum? Vonleh? Isn't that guy an even bigger project than Trob?
     
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    But he has potential!
     
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    Maybe Randle or Smart would drop, and with Smart you could move Lillard to the two.
     
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    It's a possibility. But, I think if you're moving a starter, potentially, to move up into the lottery, you'd better have a specific target, and feel pretty confident they'll be there for you. Just hoping for someone to fall, and getting a pick to get a pick would be bad, IMO.

    I dunno who, outside of I think Fez mentioning Carmelo, could be a possibility, but there's always the potential that Neil is trying to land a lotto pick as a piece to include in a bigger trade, under the assumption that that pick would be more valuable to a team than Wesley or Nic might be, or whoever. Instead of us keeping the pick for ourselves. WHo knows. Just something else to think about, instead o fhow player X, Y, Z might fit our squad.
     

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