of course, you entirely disregarded alando tucker and falsely assume that matt barnes and louis amundson are guys that the suns want to trade. and what exactly is the luxury tax set at this year? is it 71.15 mil(like wikipedia says)? espn's trade machine has the suns payroll at 75.76. so they'd have to cut 4.62 off their salary to get under the luxury tax. neither the trade with the thunder or the bulls that you propose does that. since none of those deals would get phoenix under the luxury tax anyway, if all they care about is the money, they'd most likely be in favor of raef's insurance money along with the 3 mil the blazers would surely send their way. and then during the draft, the blazers could just buy their first round pick back for another 3 mil.
If the only goal is to collect the luxury tax, then you may have a point. However, the luxury tax payout is going to be how much? My calculations say probably no more than $4 million per team this year. Phoenix will save more than that just in Raef's insurance payments. Additionally Paul can dump $3 million cash their way in the trade. And then there is the savings from the difference in salary this year (prorated for the partial year remaining). And finally, Raef actually expires this year; some of the players you want to foist on the Suns don't expire this year, and thus must be paid next year.
I don't disregard Alando Tucker. The Portland trade can't be worked out by including Alando Tucker. So I left Tucker out, since he has the smallest contract out of expendable guys in Phoenix. Barnes/Amundson will be afterthoughts in Phoenix. If they have to trade them to get the most financially suitable package, they will do it without blinking. And if the Suns don't have a follow up trade with any other teams to shed that last bit of salary to get under the LT, then they can do a secondary deal that's really part of the bigger trade, of Jared Dudley for the Bulls trade exception. Even when factoring in the new player they will have to sign, the Suns will be under the luxury tax.
If the Suns want to get rid of Thomasand have him no longer count against his cap...same with Green, I'm sure they could easily dispose of them for a draft pick to a team with capspace or a trade exception, if they really want to get rid of them.
But if you factor in the amount less they will pay in salary, plus the amount less they pay in tax, plus the amount they receive from their tax payment, then they come out most, dealing with Chicago in the way I mentioned, with the two part trade.
I just don't like Chicago as a trading parter for Portland. When Portland was trying to move Zach Chicago made a lot of sense as a trade partner, but not anymore. They don't have any real upgrade over comparative players on the Blazers, with the exception of the untouchable Rose.
The upgrade comes based on the theory that the Bulls weren't able to get the most out of Hinrich, Deng, and Nocioni. That may be true. They're obviously not getting Luol Deng's full potential, but that, I think, has more to do with Deng than anything the Bulls are running. Nocioni, they aren't getting the most out of, but that's his attitude. Hinrich? He's just not that talented.
for this season, that's roughly the same for any of the options. For next season, this favors the blazers no more than about $1 million, if they do one of these trades and no further changes. maybe $4 million Well, no, they don't. It doesn't seem worth it to list it all out, but Raef saves them roughly $3 million/2 + $5 million this year, and $15 million next year. Plus they get $3 million cash. If they have to pay the tax, it would only be about $1 milllion. Your plan saves them roughly $3 million/2 this year, and something less than $15 million next year due to the non-expiring players. If they collect the luxury tax that's another $4 million. barfo
YOu do this trade, swing Amare withing the hour limit for a player like Harris or Granger... throw in Batum or Rudy if it helps and of course anyone they want. I think we could probably get a Harris/Granger out of this deal. You def. do this in a heartbeat.
My guess is that PHX fires Porter but makes no roster moves. I know this isnt flashy, but I believe it to be true. With the talent PHX has, they can easily get into the playoffs if they get reenergized under a new coach. If they do get renergized, I would not want to face them in the playoffs.
there are no realistic circumstances involving amare where granger would be available, and probably not harris either (or augustin which somebody else mentioned). also there is no "hour" window. anything involving amare and players from our team going to a 3rd team would have to be done all in 1 3-way trade.
I actually don't agree. I think a package of Sergio/Rudy/Amare/1st could probably obtain a Devin Harris and a big contract.
I like Batum as much as the next guy, but really? Deng is a serviceable defender and a 'good' player on offense. Batum can knock down J's and finish on the break, but that's about it. I still think Deng has loads of potential. I'm curious what he would be like in a system that could develop him the right way.
Why does everyone treat NBA basketball like fantasy basketball? Amare had his best years on a fast paced team with a Hall of Fame Point Guard. Do you really think you can just remove LA's stats and replace them with Amare's stats? If so, congrats to you Mr. Whittset.
that might work if amare were a blazer, but last i checked he's still a sun. there's no realistic 3-way there.
Amare's scored 20+ points on over 60 TS% his past 4 full seasons. LaMarcus Aldridge scores at 17 points on 52.5 TS%. Which is just a mediocre scoring efficiency. No, you don't just replace LaMarcus's stats with Amare. You replace them and then add on MUCH MORE. Amare is a far superior player than Aldridge and the gap is massive.
It is massive. Amare is the best offensive big man in the league right now. To have four seasons of 20+ PPG scoring with over 60 TS%, including two of those seasons being over 25 PPG scoring. He scored 25 PPG last year, while leading the league in scoring efficiency. And that's just offensively. Defensively, Amare's been better every year than LaMarcus in Defensive Rating and has had more Defensive Win Shares than LA, while being a better rebounder. Amare Stoudemire is a top 10 NBA player. Bulls fans are just hoping he is in a Bulls uniform before anyone realizes this.
Sorry, but Amare's a terrible defensive player. I don't care what your ratings say. LaMarcus is much better defensively.
