Blazers need 15 or more swish3s for wins

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  1. Sarni

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    No, it's not. Meyers Leonard is not the solution. Please stop.

    You are seriously expecting Meyers to shoot 50% from three. Man.
     
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    Yes! Meyers is shooting 50% for 3s and 61% for FG. Please check his stats (and the earlier parts of this thread).
     
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    He's shooting 50% on about 18 attempts. He's not going to shoot more than 37-38% if he's in the team consistently, and if teams don't leave him completely open all the time he's going to shoot about 20%.
     
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    I strongly disagree. Meyers has the best season stats on the team and you need to recognize the facts!

    In past seasons, and in the playoffs, Meyers has made greater than 50% of the swish3s, and his shot has improved this year. With improved screens and passing added to better shooting this year, and better defense, he can bring the additional points to keep the Blazers up to the needed 26 points/quarter average needed to win.
     
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    He has taken 18 shots. You can easily ignore something like this. Layman once had about 56 points per 36 minutes. Not to mention Meyers' impact on defense would also be huge, but not in a positive sense.

    The only argument for playing Leonard consistently in the first team would be if we were willing to tank.
     
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    Sarni, we disagree. When you have a Blazer making the highest % of shots, you need to increase his participation. If you could look past negative bias and recognize the improvements, you might see the opportunity for getting the Blazer swish3 % back to above the league average.

    Meyers has shown that he scores 12 points with 8 swish3 attempts, gets Dame and CJ open shots, and is improving on defense. His talent can improve the success in winning when included in the strategy.
     
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    His career 3P% is 37.6%, he doesn't offer much aside from three point shooting, his inclusion would hurt the team on the defensive end way more than it would help in offense which is the reason why he doesn't play.

    Meyers Leonard is not the solution, he and his $10M a year are part of the problem.
     
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    except Mo and Meyers play different positions...Meyers has improved...he still hesitates..just not as much. I think Stotts sees who wins at practice regularly...Ed Davis beat Meyers out of the gate..Collins is getting the rookie look that Meyers got his first year here. Collins is just a natural basketball player....he plays pretty smart even though he makes rookie mistakes...Meyers got benched after the game where he couldn't catch the ball on 3 consecutive turnovers...as talented as he could be....Meyers problem has always been mental...lacking quick decision making skills....if he could conquer that, he'd be a solid basketball player.
     
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    Meyers should be in as center, agreed. His season statistical lead in shooting is clear, and he has made improvements this year.

    Terry needs to put Meyers in for swish3 scoring, especially at times like the 4th quarter of the Hornets game last night. When Jusuf is tired or making mistakes, like turnovers, Terry could substitute Meyers for him and get both freshness and scoring. I don't agree that Meyers would be likely to commit a turnover.
     
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    preach brother.
    <--- this mofo is the answer!


    (if the question is "who should never play for the Blazers ever again?")
     
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    Can we just make Swish3 the new forum admin already?
     
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    The Kings game supports the point of this thread. The Blazers made the 15 swish3s and got the win!

    This is the strategy to continue Sunday against the Jazz and continuing. It is Meyers who should be shooting the swish3s off of the bench, and not Zach, as again demonstrated in the win over the Kings tonight.

    Kudos to Dame for the great swish3 shooting tonight!
     
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    I have a better idea. Let's have Meyers take all of our shots. Since he is guaranteed to score 50% from three, if he takes 80 shots a game that's 40 made shots and a win every single night.
     
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    OK Sarni. Now you are getting the message. Ten shots taken can mean 15 points and the win.

    With Dame, CJ, and Meyers each getting 5 or more swish3s each game, and Chief, Shabazz, and maybe Mo each adding 1 or 2, the added points needed for the 112 or more 48 min scoring becomes much more likely.

    Let's keep the 15 swish3s per game string of wins going.
     
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    I am not talking about 10 shots for Meyers. He is guaranteed to shoot 50% from three every game. He should take ALL our shots.
     
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    To shoot 10 swish3's, Meyers needs 12 or more minutes of playing time. For the guy leading the season statistics in 3 categories, this idea is strongly supported.

    According to Basketball-reference, Meyers leads the Blazers in PER (20.1), TS% (0,704), and WS/48 (0.225). It makes sense to play him at strategic points in the 2nd and 4th quarters to add strength at center when Jusuf is tiring and to keep the swish3 points at or above 45 per game.

     
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    @swish3 We needed you earlier in the season.
    I even tagged you before 2018 came.
    Now that Portland is winning, you just come off as a bandwagon fan who should be ignored.

    So sly, step up your game you troll.
     
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    The Jazz average 37.5% of swish3s and 11 tries per game. The Blazers can beat them with 15 or more swish3s.
     
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    The Blazers scored only 9 swish3s against the Jazz on Feb 11. The 6 missing swish3s in this game would have added 18 points and had the game up for grabs. The Blazers need to take advantage of the extra scoring power of this 15 or more swish3s strategy.

    There should have been at least 10 shots attempted by Meyers, especially with Nurk not scoring and out of the game, and the need for swish3 scoring that can't occur with him on the bench. Meyers is the leading FT3% scorer (over 50%) and can make the difference. I would like to see him playing at least 6 min each in the 3rd and 4th quarters, and taking at least 5 swish3 shots in each of them. His presence will also lead to more open shots for Dame, CJ, Shabazz, and Chief.
     
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    Golden State Warriors average 11.7 swish3s per game making 39.3% of 29.8 attempts. The Blazers have a good chance to win the Feb 14 game using the 15 or more swish3s strategy while holding the Warriors to their average.

    This would be a pivotal win and a confidence builder to enhance the post-break part of the season.
     

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