Blazers need 3 point scoring

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I'm sorry to hear that you have a Laker-fan friend, but I'm sure he has other redeeming qualities.
     
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    I'm engaged to his sister, so it's sort of an obligation ya know?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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  5. swish3

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    It remains a major coaching mistake to waste swish3 attempts on low % shooters resulting in 3P% below 20% with the Blazers leading and NBA Playoff record holding Meyers on the bench. The Blazers can have major success all the way to the NBA Championship if we take advantage of the 9-12 swish3 points that Meyers should be scoring each game. It is time to acknowledge that Meyers is the Blazer leading scoring statistics for swish3s, TS%, eFG%, ORtg, and points/FGA beginning with the TOR game Mar 1.
     
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    Nope. Meyers doesn’t bring a post game like Kanter. He won’t get many minutes outside of Canada.
     
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    swish3 Well-Known Member

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    Meyers brings high % swish3 shooting that we need for wins against TOR, GSW, OKC, etc. We need this offensive weapon and the excellent screens, passes, assists, and spacing that the change in offense that Meyers brings gives in tough contests. Tlongl, you are missing the scoring advantage that the alternation of Nurk and Meyers, both of whom are getting excellent shots for teammates, means as a challenge for the opposition, as noted above in this thread.
     
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    Meyers is a good 13th man. Glad to see him likely get a chance for one game up in Canada. Also glad he won't be in the normal rotation after.

    Took about 5 years longer than it should have; but we finally have the right role for him.

    He'll be an expiring contract once the season is over. Finally.
     
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    WesleyMatthews, you are seriously wrong! Meyers is the leader in swish3, TS%, eFG%, and points/FGA leader for the Blazers and has the NBA 3P% record for 10 made in the Playoffs. He has progressed steadily and is in the mainstream for development time for big men. If we use him to score 47% or more in coming games and continue to utilize his screens, passes, and assists that open shots for teammates, we can win the NBA Championship this year. You need to stop making comments that are from previous years and recognize the talent that will win games.

    You need to review the statistics that Meyers achieved in the Jan 30 UTAH Jazz game and admit that Meyers talent is valuable and can contribute to the winning difference this season.
     
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    The Blazers won the swish3 contest at TOR Mar 1 scoring 14 of 33 vs TOR 10 of 28 in the 119-117 loss. This was a close game in which the Blazers fought back from being 16 points down in Q3 to taking the lead in Q4 with flashes of good defense, but lost it on a Kawhi 12 foot FG with 7 sec left. There were seriously flawed ref calls, especially charging fouls against us (e.g., Nurk and Jake) that were called oppositely against us at the other end at strategic points and notable no calls of fouls of Dame, Nurk, Chief, Mo, Meyers, Seth, Jake, and Rod that changed the momentum. After the 1st half, we had 17 fouls vs TOR 7 which was obviously badly skewed. This was a tough loss after the refreshing 4th Q recovery.

    CJ led scoring 7 of 11, Dame scored 3 of 6, Chief scored 2 of 3, Seth scored 1 of 3, and Jake scored 1 of 4. Meyers and Zach were each 0 of 1, and Mo and Rod were each 0 of 2. One more swish3 would have won the game. The Blazers misused Meyers in this game, ignoring him open in the corners for highly probable swish3 scores that would have won the game. Meyers played only in the 1st half and got only 1 feed for the dunk, but could have scored 12+ points if there were assists and plays for him. Nurk scored 10, Meyers scored 2, and Zach scored 0, giving the Center position only 12 points in this game. I would have played Meyers also in the 4th Q for swish3 scoring, and because Gasol was manhandling Zach badly. Meyers was doing better against Gasol and Ibaka. We need to call on Meyers for swish3 scoring that should be averaging 9+ points in games like this to get wins in the Playoffs.

    This was an encouraging game showing Blazer progression because of the comeback in the 4th Q relying on determined defense and offense showing improving team chemistry. TOR played well, ending up with 55.6% FGA to get the ref assisted win, and the game was fun to watch. The victory was so close and would have been so sweet. Let's start the new winning streak of 7+!
     
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    Nar_s wouldn't hardly look at a 'swish 3' and was completely useless out there. One, 1, uno, ein....would have helped.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Hate to say it, but the Blazers "misused Meyers", by "using" him. The obstacles at the NFL Combine provide more difficulty on defense than he does.
     
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    Tykendo and TBpup, you do not follow my thoughts because you do not acknowledge Meyers statistical achievements this season and don't imagine the swish3 scoring that will result if CJ, Dame, Seth, and Rod will pass him the assist when he is open in the corners. That is a high % sweet spot where he could and should be scoring those additional 6-12 points. Most swish3 talents, for example Kyle Korver, shoot at least 4 swish3 attempts per game as catch and shoots mostly from kickout passes. If we would do that, we would have the scoring to add wins of games like TOR.

    Meyers has provided many open shots for Dame, CJ, Seth, Mo, Jake, Zach, and others with some great screens, assists, and off ball movement. We need to use plays that look for him to score the ard shots, drives, and dunks like he did in the Jan 30 UTA win, which was a major success after the 2 humiliating losses to them in December. The Blazers should now get at least 36 PPG from the Center position, and Meyers should be averaging at least 10 PPG in the 3 man rotation with Nurk and Enes.
     
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    You think Meyers has gotten those guys open shots??? Teams literally play like 10 feet off of him because his wind up to shoot is so slow that even though they respect his shooting they know they can recover. He's gotten Dame and CJ, etc the same amount of open shots that I have...
     
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    Tortured, you need to watch the games and acknowledge that Meyers is leading in multiple categories, and his success shows that his slow, deliberate swish3 shot is effective. Meyers leads Blazer 3P% shooting. Meyers has set some outstanding screens. If you didn't notice the excellent passes to Dame, CJ, Seth, Mo, Jake, and Zach that resulted in scores then you would make such an errant comment (0 open shots). What are your thoughts on the UTA Jan 30 game?
     
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    recently Meyers has been hesitant to shoot the 3 at all...he looks like he's going to, then passes to the corner everytime...don't actually know why he's stopped shooting them.
     
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    Haha, I miss maybe 5 games a year due to work, I most certainly watch the games. Meyers has been much better this year but, please give me a break about Meyers opening up the offense. Even his best games like Utah, teams tend to leave him alone because he’s slow in terms of his shooting motion, and he’s hesitant to shoot too which doesnt help. If were gonna open this up to he sets good screens, well ok thats opening up it to go at him for the things he does really, really bad on an NBA level.
    The guys a very accurate shooter, that cant get his own shot and for a 7 footer needs an extraordinary amount of room to get his shot off...
     
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    CJ has had some amazing 3-point shooting lately !!!
     
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    Yes, CJ was great in the TOR (7 of 11) and CLE (7 of 8) games, but needed another swish3 expert in the BOS (1 of 8) and PHI (1 of 5) games. Meyers scored 4 of 5 against UTA Jan 30 and 3 of 5 in the Dec 21 UTA game, has the leading TS% of 67.5, eFG% of 65.2, 3P% of 46.5, and making 1.47 points per FGA to go along with the NBA Playoff record of 76.9% for 10+ made swish3s. These numbers contradict the notion that he needs 10 feet or even more than 4 feet that is normal for an open catch and shoot. Meyers deliberate swish3 shot is proved as among the best in the NBA if we will feed him in the corners and other sweet spots the way that TOR kicked out to Green or CLE kicks out catch and shoots to Kyle Korver. There are a lot of points that we need for Meyers to contribute for wins against TOR, GSW, MIL, and Playoff level teams o the way to the NBA Championship that is possible this year!
     
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    The Blazers lost the swish3 Mar 3 contest against CHO scoring 11 of 32 vs CHO 14 of 33 in the 118-108 win. This was an excellent game for Rod who scored 27 points (a personal high) in 24 min, and for Nurk who scored 26 points in 29 min. Dame scored 23 points in 36 min.

    Dame led scoring 4 of 10, Rod scored 3 of 6, CJ scored 2 of 4, Seth scored 1 of 2, and Chief scored 1 of 3. Mo was 0 of 1, and Enes, Jake, and Zach were each 0 of 2. The Blazers withstood a 4th Q run to keep the lead and get the win.
     
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