Blazers need 3 point scoring

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  1. beast crnjo

    beast crnjo Well-Known Member

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    Animus 2 swish3s at the end of the game were definitely clutch. If the blazers had missed all of their swish3s they'd have lost by 36.
     
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    The Blazers lost the swish3 game scoring 42 (14 of 33) versus the Lakers 45 (15 of 32) in the 117-126 loss on Nov 14. After the Blazers took the lead in most of the first half with good shooting, active defense, and some excellent assists, the Lakers showed the power of swish3 scoring in the 2nd half and the Blazers ran down noticeably on shooting, ball movement, defense, and turnovers due to bad passes. The night turned into a blast for LeBron who scored 44 points including 68%+ of field goals, 13 of 15 FT, 10 rebounds, and 9 assists. Even though LeBron played well, he was aided in my view by weaving a scheme of fouls called after he used some flopping and complaining near the end of the first half to bias foul calls in his favor. At times it seemed that the refs stopped play to review possible flagrant fouls of LeBron often, and called fouls on Zach, Nurk, and Dame that were minor compared to hits, pushes, holds, and hits of the shooting hand. I thought that LeBron's featured shot block was a clear foul, and if it were called might have changed momentum.

    The major missing factor in this game seemed to be failing to make strategic substitutions to allow the bench to contribute scoring and keep up the defensive intensity. In the last min of the 1st half and in the 2nd half, especially the 4th quarter, Blazer defense lost intensity and scoring accuracy ran down. This was the time for substitutions to keep intensity up. This game was like some last year when Blazers had the lead and were in control of the game, but let it run down by failing to make substitutions that keep up consistent, active defense and add scoring. On a night when LeBron scores 15 points in 6 shots, a win is hard to get, but there could have been 9 more swish3s scored with as few as 6 additional shots from the best shooting talent.

    In this game, Chief was 4 of 7, CJ was 3 of 8, Dame was 3 of 9, Jake was 2 of 2 (again!), Meyers was 1 of 2, Zach was 1 of 4, and Evan was 0 of 1. In the rest of the road trip, I would like to see the Blazers return to the pattern of substitutions that will keep swish3 scoring and consistent determined defense flowing throughout the game. This can still be a successful road trip.
     
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    swish3 Well-Known Member

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    The Blazers decisively lost the swish3 contest tonight scoring only 24 (8 of 29) while the MIN TWolves scored 36 (12 of 28). This Nov 16 game was a game of turnovers and flawed Blazer coaching. In a game in which Nurk and Meyers were scoring well and should have been played together and fed more shots, the Blazers reverted to many shots by Dame and CJ. I would like to see Nurk and Meyers on the floor together with plays to have them shooting when Blazer scoring is falling behind. It made no sense to have Evan shooting swish3s, and Jake playing when Meyers could have been in, and Simmons played remarkably well when he was in.

    Swish3 shooting was led by Meyers (2 of 2), Gary Trent (2 of 2), Zach (1 of 2), with Dame 1 of 7, CJ 1 of 4, Chief 1 of 5, Evan, Wade, and Nik each 0 of 1, and Jake and Simmons 0 of 2. This was a night in which recognizing and feeding the hot hand could have made a big difference. For the rest of the road trip, let's hope for better use of scoring talent that is hot. To win these games, the Blazers should be aiming to score 45 points by swish3s, which would have been enough to win again tonight.
     
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    This was a night where not turning the ball over everytime down the court wouldve been fantastic. Between TO’s and their defense they sucked. Sure they didnt shoot well, but shooting well usually comes with crisp offense.

    6 straight quarters of just pure trash on both ends of the court.
     
  5. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Back from 0-2!

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    No question Meyers played well again against the Twolves. He did get some time and Nurk played well though also. Stotts did play Meyers and Collins together for a while. But they couldn't close the gap.
     
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    But with Meyers shooting 100% of swish3s, the Blazers did not keep feeding him. They left him alone on the arc and squandered shooting opportunities, like the close hook shot that Zach missed. Dame should have stopped after missing 3 consecutive swish3 attempts. Gary was also hot. What needs to change is getting to 8 swish3s each half by continuing the shooting from the hot hands.
     
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    Oh, you mean the other team started guarding him, thus taking away his swish3 opportunities? Weird.
     
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    No. I mean that I saw Meyers open at the arc and plays in which he could be open at the arc if they looked for him. Recognizing the NBA record swish3 percentage shooter being hot and using him as an offensive weapon in games like the MIN games should result in a win every time. When Dame and CJ and Chief and Jake are cold, the Blazers need to rely on Meyers, and with his active off ball movement, he can be open for at least 6 swish3s per game. And if he makes 3 or more, keep shooting. This is the Blazer who shot 76.9% in the playoffs! He will be open and know when to take those shots, but we need to be looking to him to score.
     
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    In this MIN Nov 16 game, Blazer starters were 3 of 18 and the bench scored 5 of 11 swish3s. When the starters are missing, and the bench is scoring, Blazer coaches need to respond.
     
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    What "plays" can get Meyers open? He can't shoot unless he's at a standstill, and his shot is so slow that defenders can easily go under screens and still be there to stop Meyers from shooting. Stick a guy on Meyers, and hes not getting open looks.

    Also, what NBA record did he break?! Lmao.
     
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    Hi BJ. Meyers does get open and make shots. And he spaces the floor, screens to get teammates open shots, and has good off ball movement that has him open at the arc. He has made many shots that show he is not easily defended. If you watch closely, he needs only about 3 feet of separation at the time of his shot, which is admittedly deliberate but also quite accurate.

    Meyers NBA record is for percentage swish3 shooting (76.9%) in the playoffs, which in the "Is Meyers Leonard for real?" and other threads discussed and acknowledged.
    In case you missed it, click on this:
    http://bkref.com/tiny/fS0pn
     
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    I bet you I can find someone who's shot 1 for 1, since you're not accounting for sample size.. and if Meyers is so good, why do you use a 5 game sample size from years ago to make him sound better?
     
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    This basketballreference sort specifies making at least 10 swish3s.
     
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    Strenuus Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    You're literally the funniest poster here. Your effort is admirable. I never laugh ad much as when you post. Thank you!
     
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    The Blazers lost the swish3 contest against WAS scoring 11 of 30 versus 13 of 32 by WAS. There was good early shooting by the Blazers that got to a 20 point lead the was there for much of the game. But WAS used swish3s to make runs and trim the lead. Dame had another (3rd) 40 point game, getting him to being the only NBA player to do so at this point.

    Dame was 3 of 10, CJ was 3 of 5, Chief was 2 of 4, Meyers was 1 of 1, Nik was 1 of 2, Jake was 1 of 5, and Nurk, Zach, and Simons were each 0 of 1. Simons should not be attempting swish3s. There were some nice layups throughout the game, especially in the 3rd quarter, and an excellent in bounds steal by Dame. Defense intensity was good, and there were 26 assists, with good communication facilitating the good team effort.

    Substitutions were again minimized by the coaches which did allow WAS to mount a come back run. Nurk played 31 min, Dame 38, and CJ 39. Even though Meyers made 5 points and got a rebound in only 4 min, making both his swish3 and dunk2, and Zach and Chief fouled out, he was in there only 4 min. I do not understand leaving Meyers on the bench when he is making his shots and seems to be playing well. I would play him long enough to make 6 swish3 attempts and add his talents to the strength of the Blazer offense. That was not needed for this win, but will be in upcoming games, in which the Blazers are likely to need about 15 swish3s to get the win. It is good to still be near the 70% win trajectory. Let's pursue it!
     
  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Meyers Leonard is currently 1 made swish3 away from having the first 50/50/100 season in NBA history.

    BNM
     
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    YES! Let's hope that the Knicks game Nov 20 gets him there, and that the coaches recognize his scoring talent and call on him for the 16-20 points per game that he should be contributing.
     
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    Should and can are way too far apart.

    But good luck to you, Meyers. Good post.
     
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    As is the pattern, the Blazers won the game scoring more than 15 swish3s, and are alone at the top of the Western Conference. The Blazers were 16 of 35 which was better than the Knicks 13 of 29, although the Knicks had the lead in the 1st half with very hot swish3 shooting. Blazer defense was only moderate, not high intensity in the first half allowing the Knicks to reach 60 in the first half. The excellent beat the buzzer siwsh3 by Jake at the end of the half was a major momentum boost.

    Several Blazers did well in this team victory with 5 of them in double figures. CJ was 5 of 9, Meyers was 3 of 4, Dame was 3 of 9, Chief and Nik were each 2 of 4, Jake was 1 of 3, and both Nurk and Zach were 0 of 1. CJ scored 31, Dame 29, Meyers 15, Nurk 13, and Evan 10 as leading scorers.

    This was a good game for Meyers, with examples of how he should and shouldn't be used. Shooting more than 70% of swish3s and making 2 nice dunk2s shows the scoring weapon that Meyers accomplishes for the Blazers. However, feeding him the midrange ball with 2 men on him is what not to do. Meyers set excellent screens and produced good open shots for teammates, made good passes, and played active defense in this game.

    If Meyers had been in the game for him to shoot 8 instead of 4 swish3s, we might have seen the 9 additional points scored that will probably be needed to beat the Bucks tomorrow. The extraordinary talent that it takes to make >70% of swish3s with coaches and players yelling at you to shoot is hard to appreciate. I am amazed that Meyers is at his astounding 50/50/100 percentage pace given the shouts that he is hearing, and would be relieved if coaches, teammates, and fans would quiet down and let his high accuracy scoring be at its best.

    It would be a well chosen change in coaching to recognize the swish3 scoring skill of Meyers which can be a major factor in besting the Bucks and Warriors in the next 2 games.
     
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