Blazers need more 3 point scoring

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  1. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Bingo! You made a post without saying 'Swish3'. I'm proud of you.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think your actual argument is that Meyers is a fresh body, not an actual good player. And for that I completely agree.
     
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    The Cleveland Cavaliers will never again win a championship because they lack swish3 scoring from
    the center position. However, for swish3 draft picks we will give them an immense swish3 center
    with a positive attitude.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    If he's such a good 3pt shooter, as you say, why wouldn't teams run him off the arc? It's not hard to do. He has such a slow shot that defenders can often get there in times causing him to pump fake. If it makes so much for him to shoot a lot, why wouldn't other teams stop him from shooting a lot?

    Double? Why would anyone double Meyers? He can't do anything with the ball other than kind of shoot it. All teams have to do is defend him tightly with one defender and cover everyone else, and our offense bogs down.
     
  5. swish3

    swish3 Well-Known Member

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    By player movement, Meyers and all Blazers can be free for an open shot. And I don't agree that only Meyers can be "run off the arc." Rather, anyone can be defended at the arc, but may not be defended with the right movement patterns and passing to get the man open.

    As Terry and many fans have commented, the Blazers need hot swish3 shooting. Several Blazers have been struggling in these recent losses. I think that the Celtics and Grizzlies losses should have been wins.

    What has been effective in reaching the career scoring of 1803 points can continue. I do not see Meyers as being more easily defended than Chief or Evan or Mo. The Blazers can keep winning. Playing a rested accurate shooting Meyers late in the games can mean more wins. The Blazers can avoid losses like the Celtics and Grizzlies games.
     
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    swish3 Well-Known Member

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    The Blazers (8 of 30) beat the Clippers (4 of 13) in the swish3 contest while shooting a terrible 26.7% of FT3s. The two best shooters of the night were Shabazz (1 of 2) and Pat (2 of 4). There is also the problem of only scoring 18 points in the 4th quarter. But relying on an excellent 38 point 2nd quarter and good play throughout the earlier part of the game, the Blazers win and stay on the path to the Championship.

    For the playoffs, the Blazers will need better percentage swish3 shooting and 4th quarter play that the coaches can experiment to find in the upcoming games. I imagine that they will use these opportunities to improve.
     
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    Wait, in 6 years he's averaged 300.5 points and he's our answer?

    A team scores more points than him in 3 games...
     
  8. swish3

    swish3 Well-Known Member

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    The 1803 points are limited by playing time and expressed per year are not impressive, I agree. But the ranking of 4th among active Blazers, ahead of Mo and Evan, (Current All-Time Standings) are notable exactly because in this season he has only 204 min playing time. That means efficient scoring, which is valuable.
     
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    But he has shot 47% from the three points this season, you need to maximize the talent and use the best players available to ensure that the swish3 strategy yields results.
     
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    That's not how that works. It only looks efficient because of the lack of time.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Or we could do what built us that Clipped lead and get buckets inside.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Leonard's numbers per minute are alright. But he's mechanical (i.e. uncreative...looking to the sideline for orders...not a natural athlete) on defense. Tonight's game thread compares him to Marjanovic:

     
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    Speaking of the game thread, here's my reason for our lack of 3-point shots.

     
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    This is still just stating the criticisms from last season instead of acknowledging the improved performance this year. Meyers this year is deliberate and accurate, and has improved on defense. He can help win games, and should be recognized for achievements, rather than negatively commented on in comparison to bad players.
     
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    Meyers is on pace to have a career low amount of defensive win shares, and in 204 minutes, he hasn't blocked a single shot.. not ONE! (For reference, Shabazz gets a block every 100 minutes) So how can you say he's improved defensively?
     
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    swish3 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Meyers needs to develop shot blocking, and based on what Jusuf is doing he can also concentrate on this. I think that he has improved defensively because of his better positioning, movement that anticipates opponents, getting hands high to force changes in opponent's show trajectory, and decreased fouling. He has played defense well against Cousins, Gasol, McGee, and Adams, among others.
     
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    Jake layman got burn before meyers. Lol. Baldwin and swanny got burn before meyers. Lol.

    Ill trust the coach before your backwards view of meyers’ games
     
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    Short term memory?

    He scored how many in memphis?
     
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    So you think the guy with 0 blocks in 204 minutes is deterring guys from attacking the rim?

    Decreased fouling? Last year he fouled 5.1 times Per 36 minutes. This year, has fouling 4.9 times Per 36 minutes. Both are horrible.

    Played defense well against Cousins? Last year Cousins dropped 50something on him.

    So the dude is 7'1 with no blocks in 204 minutes, is still fouling at an insane clip, and you think he's improved defensively? C'mon dude. You're not objective.
     
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    LameR Ha Seung-Jin Approved!

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    This thread is such a weird mix of actual dialogue and tongue-in-cheek comments. I lovehate it.
     
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