Blazers need more 3 point scoring

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  1. swish3

    swish3 Well-Known Member

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    Statistics show that Meyers is much better, even above team average, for defense this year. I do not agree that Meyers would show less effective defense than Evan in the coming games. Let's try Meyers and see.
     
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    Wait. You actually want Nards to play at Small Forward instead of ET?
    So you actually think Nards could check Wiggins, or for the upcoming OKC game... PG/Melo?

    This isn't even funny, or a good troll.
    Nards is not the answer at off the bench at small forward. Literally just No.
     
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    Yes, I would play Meyers against Melo and count on Meyers to score 3-6 swish3s. Remember that Meyers quite effectively shut down Cousins in previous seasons. His defense is better this year as the statistics show.
     
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    He was effective at slowing Boogie's back to the basket game..
    Soon as Boogie started go to his face up game. Boogie ate Nards alive due to Nards not having the lateral quickness to stay in front.

    If you actually think Nards can effectively defend Melo 25 ft from the hoop then you've been playing too much 2k.
    Nards couldn't defend Boogie 25ft from the hoop.
    Last time Portland tried to use Nards as a 'Boogie stopper', he got pulled for Davis/Plumlee because Boogie was facing up and going right around Nards like a chair.

    Do not say 'statistics' show Nards has been better this year.
    As I've said multiple times Nards has been better this year. You don't need stats to see that...
    You only have to ignore the Utah game where he couldn't even get his hands up to contest @ the rim.

    At the end of the day Portland is 10 games over .500. Highest they've been since Aldridge/Batum/Wes/Rolo left.
    Nards isn't playing a part it that. Why, because he's let a 19 year old rookie beat him out. Frankly that's all that needs to be said.
    Nards doesn't deserve PT over anyone who is currently getting PT.


    The funny part about you is, you actually believe coming onto this forum and saying.
    'Give Meyers Leonard a chance'. Is actually going to get him PT.
     
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    We see this differently, Honki. Meyers has better moves, including lateral steps, this year and can defend at 22 to 25 feet out. Meyers does need to get his hands up high to use his length to force a change in trajectory in his opponent's shots. When he does, he is more effective. He is defending as well as Evan while offering valuable scoring power, but needs the playing time to show it. I would play him off the bench against the Thunder to get the win.

    Too many minutes are being given to Zach, who should not be attempting swish3s and who becomes weaker on defense after 8 min of play. It is not a winning plan to have Zach taking 4 times as many swish3 attempts as Meyers, or to fail to play fresher talent, obviously with energetic will to win.

     
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    I would submit that Zach is not in the game for his swish3 prowess, though obviously a 32% shooter at the 5 on some decent volume (3.5 3pa/g) can be helpful. However, I'd submit that Zach's defense (similar to most rookies) is what is getting him on the floor, and is a strong contributor to both our good team defensive rating and 14-5 record since the MIN game mid-Jan. Meyers can't (unfortunately) say that.
     
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    Meyers was 0-2 for 3 tonight.

    I don't understand.... I thought he was GUARANTEED 50% shooting ???!!

    I must have missed something... can you explain this to me @swish3 ?
     
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    So, looks like ET & Collins both outplayed Nards and it wasn't close.
    This thread should die now right?
     
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    He's 9 for 20 now. Obviously that means he guaranteed to shoot 45% on Swish3 attempts.
     
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    I wanna watch the game you watch because it sounds like an interesting, groundbreaking sport
     
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    No, what the blazers need is kawhi Leonard. Or someone like him. I'd even take 75% kawhi leonard.
     
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    It is not possible.

    And Zach was 2-2 from the three... Something must have gone wrong in the big matrix.
     
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    Both Evan and Zach had good games tonight, which is great since Dame, Jusuf, and Chief were in a lull. Meyers also had a down game, which can be at least partly explained by the very small number of playing minutes recently., Kudos to Evan and Zach, and we hope for more energetic contributions to continuing the winning series. But when swish3 scoring is lagging, I would have Meyers shooting 6-12 shots. Two attempts is not enough.

    What I liked was seeing Meyers and Zach on the floor together. With more playing time, those 2 bigs can present a strong challenge to teams like the Lakers, Warriors, and Cavaliers. And look at this, the Blazers now have a won-loss record that is better than the Cavaliers!
     
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    The Lakers are averaging 10.5 swish3s at 37.4% while the Blazers have decreased to 9.6 swish3s at 36.3%, but the game on March 5 needs to have more Blazer than Laker swish3 scoring. I imagine that Blazer coaches will use available talent to include 12-15 swish3s to enhance the scoring that makes the win likely.
     
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    Now I understand. We should have Meyers shooting more because that guarantees he will shoot 50%. So if he misses 10, have him shoot 20 more so he can get 15 swish 3s.

    Is there actually a player in the league who is shooting 12 3-point attempts a game, other than Curry (who can justify it)?

    Just imagine our game if it was built around Meyers attempting a three every third or fourth play. :D
     
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    The game that I imagine is Meyers shooting a swish3 every 3rd or 4th play for the minutes he is in, expecting about 3 for 6 shooting, and keeping the shooting going on nights when he is making 50% or more. Players shooting the most FG3 attempts are Harden, Gordon, Curry, George, and Walker. That pace is a lot of shots, but when a player is hot, those swish3 scores are powerful. In the most likely case, Meyers would shoot 5-6 shots.

    There is no certainty of which nights are the hot ones, but these points off the bench would be welcome offensive power to win more games.
     
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    Meyers Leonard definitely sounds like he belongs to the same list.
     
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    The Blazers got the 10 swish3 average, thanks largely to the 4 swish3s in the 4th quarter (15 consecutive scoring points in 3+ min) from Dame. This is spectacular!

    It is hard to find a better example of how powerful the swish3 is to turn the game around than this memorable game to beat the Lakers. Dame, Jusuf, and Shabazz (on defense) were outstanding in their determination to win.

    As Terry noted, Damian can literally will the win and make it happen. No one does this better! In game after game, he is showing that he is among the best players in the NBA.
     

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