Blazers need more 3 point scoring

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    swish3 Well-Known Member

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    No Honkicracker, we disagree! Zach is a valuable new Blazer teammate of Meyers who brings strengths that increase probability for wins. When Zach and Meyers are playing together, I think the Blazers can mount a swish3 power scoring attack that is sufficient to beat any competitor in these intense end of season games and even the playoffs. In fact, as I analyze it, Meyers and Zach can and do improve each others game.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    The Blazers lost the swish3 contest against the Grizzlies and lost a game that shouldn't be a loss. Blazers made only 8 of 30 while the Grizzlies made 13 of 25 resulting in a deficit of 15 points, and scoring only 103 for a loss by 5 points. It is unbelievable to me that Blazer coaches did not play the leading swish3 scoring talent, who is still 4th in scoring among active Blazers, when the team was again struggling with FT3s and when Meyers was well rested and would be ready to contribute additional points and the win.

    This Grizzlies loss was an example game for losing the 3 point contest and consequently the game. Even though Jusuf and Zach played well, the center position only contributed 15 points. CJ, Zach, and Wade scored efficiently with swish3s, but the Blazers really needed, and lost without, high percentage swish3 scoring that was frozen on the bench.

    It is astounding to me that the Blazers failed to include the team's top percentage swish3 shooter in this game. With only 2 Meyers swish3s, this game could have been won. It is a vital characteristic of a championship team to recognize, value, and promote the talent, especially shooting power, in the team strategy in order to optimize wins and take the intensely contended steps to the championship. I hope that Blazer coaches will not repeat the mistake that they made tonight. This should have been a win.

    The Blazers need more swish3 scoring, including 12 or more, optimally 15+ such power scores each game, and to get keep scoring 112+ (or 116+ against the Rockets) points per game. It makes sense to include available Blazer talent.
     
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    I don’t really find it ‘astounding’ that our coaches prefer to give all the center minutes to Nurkic and Davis instead of Meyers.
     
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    Leaving Meyers on the bench neglects the advantage of the swish3s that he could have scored and the win that follows. The Blazers need the extra scoring power that Meyers, who is (despite lack of playing time) the 4th leading scoring contributor among the active Blazers. IMHO, for the Championship, the Blazers need to include his scoring talent.
     
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    He isn’t the fourth leading scoring contributor this season, not even close. And the perception that he would score many 3s when trough out his entire career he has only had a handful of games where he scored more than 2 of them is also a bit weird and completely neglects the fact that he would have likely given up a lot more on the defense than he would have gained on the offensive end.

    He is only here because we cannot get rid of his contract. Nobody honestly thinks he can contribute anything which is why he doesn’t play. It’s much better to give all his potential minutes to someone like Zach Collins who is learning and is already much better than Leonard ever was. If there was possibility of letting him go, we would have done this long ago. I don’t expect him to get any action in the playoffs either, doubt he will even step his foot on the court.
     
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    Hi Sarni. To clarify, what I am referring to is the numbers from all time scoring, which is discussed in the Current All-Time Standings thread. Meyers has 1803 career points, despite quite limited time this year. Furthermore, Meyers was leading in percentage swish3 shooting until mid February, and is still among the top efficiency shooters. Even though he has only 204 total min this season, he can add high percentage shooting at critical times to win games (like the Grizzlies).

    To maximize chances to win, it just makes sense to include his talent, especially when he is fresh and rested and his teammates are gassed and missing shots. It would be a self-damaging waste to avoid using him in coming games, especially the playoffs. It seems to me that the main reason for not playing Meyers is the negative perception that is not based on his play this year.
     
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    Who else really wants to meet swish3? I want to know what he sounds like in person.
     
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    His play this year does not exist. The sample size from the 75 games we have played is too small to be conclusive.

    He is our second longest serving player and the fourth highest scorer. Kind of shows his impact since arrival.
     
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    Small sample size dude. Wade Baldwin has scored 15 points in about 20 minutes with us. Does that mean that has a better scorer than Dame? No. Why? Because the sample is too small. In a much bigger sample last year, Meyers shot 34% on 3pt shots, while hurting us in every other area of the game.
     
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    Wade Baldwin is scoring 27 points per 36 on 100% 3-pointers efficiency. That means he should play 48 minutes a night and shoot 40 times from three to get 120 points. Bulletproof strategy this.
     
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    Wade played well in the Grizzlies game, is 1 of 1 for swish3s, and that is great. He can add to Blazer scoring, which is welcome.

    However, the advantage of including swish3 scoring by Meyers can result in winning. I would include him in the swish3 power scoring offense as the backup center, especially in the 2nd half situations when fresh energy and scoring will bring the success.
     
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    Meyers Leonard will not be included as an offensive weapon simple because he isn’t one while also being a defensive liability at the same time.
     
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    Thanks, Kingspeed! This clip makes it clear that Meyers can make the swish3s even when 2 of them are clearly contested.

    Having this scoring power in the March Celtics and Rockets and Grizzlies games could have meant wins.
     
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    This was one off performance from him. He never plays at this level normally.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    While true, he has been slowly improving lately.
     
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    Okay. I will say it. I will say what everyone else is thinking.

    Your posts are the most delusional I have ever seen on this forum. I mean no disrespect and I hold no judgments, but this thread, your posts and your thoughts on Meyers is 100% fantasy lala land.

    Do you shroom much?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    LOL, exactly what I was thinking.
     
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