Some day, maybe this afternoon since my boss will be gone, I will dive into players from the drafts that were supposed to be good, but weren't, and visa versa. I will try to find similar traits about those players by looking at past analysis of those players pre draft. Try to figure out what the Born Evaluater sees in some of these players My pizza delivery friend tells me what he looks for, and he has been fairly solid. He is the one who kept telling me the Luke Babbitt was going to be a solid player.
If TRob falls to 4, that deal is absolutely worth it. And we can pick up Wroten with 24. That would be absolutely sick, Wroten and Robinson as a draft day haul? I like it more than anything with Beal/Drummond/etc.
He isn't. In his best month in April, he averaged 8.6pts and 3.6rebs in 25mins on 38% FG. That's "solid?"
Not sure I would trade #6 & #11 to move up to #2...even if they threw back #31 in the deal.... I think POR has the potential to get 2 very good players at both picks....
It's really going to depend on the vision of the GM. If we can sign a top tier PG, then trading them for a big time SG or Center might not be the worst idea
Well, MM, if you want to find unheralded good players, start with the 1990-vintage Blazers and the current Spurs. Terry Porter, #24. Kevin Duckworth, Jerome Kersey, Clifford Robinson, Danny Ainge, all second rounders. Tony Parker, late first round. Manu Ginobili, second round. Stephen Jackson, second round. Bruce Bowen, undrafted. It's pretty amazing, teams like the Kings are in the lottery every year, Warriors had one year out in what, 20? while other teams can find gold late.
Right. There has got to be a common denominator. I mean don't tell me my math and statistics classes were a waste of time?
If a team wanted to move down, I'd do it but I wouldn't put in the 11th. Fuck that. The talent just isn't good enough between 2 and 6 to make it worth the jump. If Charlotte wanted to slide from 2 to 6, I would be willing to un-protect our pick next year. It's a gamble, but I think with the #2 pick and the 11th, plus whatever we can bring in through free agency, we should make the playoffs again.
Our team is so devoid of talent right now, that trading both picks for one pick is a huge mistake. We need an infusion of new talent. Badly. Our cap space is going to bring in one, maybe two new players. That's simply not enough. In all likelihood we will lose Hickson, so we will need to try to plug in some youth at guard and forward. I think we should sit on our picks, take the BPA at #6 and the BPA at 11 and then fill needs in free agency. I have a good feeling that someone will drop on draft day. They always do. Maybe we get lucky and Robinson or Drummond drop to six, and then we get Lamb or maybe Lillard at 11. This lottery is full of guys that could end up being above average or maybe even star players. No superstars, but definitely some guys with star potential. It would be stupid to pass up the chance to roll the dice twice instead of just once.
Math and statistics are not a waste of time but I've think we've seen the draft is an "art" as well as a "science", if you will. Yes, player stats in college or overseas count. So do intangibles. I think some teams with late picks shrug their shoulders, figure they'll get an end of bench guy at best. Others like the Spurs really dig, try to find the guy who isn't "ideal", who may have less experience, but who has the heart. Kind of like what the A's did in baseball in the early part of the decade. Call it golden gut, or outside the box, or whatever cliche, there's no doubt some got it, some don't. Sure, it's great if your #1 pick is Tim Duncan. But no one can count on that luck.
I would do 6+11 for any pick between 2-4. That gives Blazers leverage to draft a good second or third scoring option.
Who would you have that you couldn't get later? MKG is not a scorer, and neither is Drummond (for a few years). Robinson a little, but not great. Beal is, but so is Lillard, Ross or Lamb after 6.
depending on how it shakes out, id actually rather move down, maybe the #11 and ? for houstons 14 and 16
i get some of the lowry love, but his value isnt as high as most of yall believe me dont think, he basically said he hates the coach and wants out...at a certain point they will simply trade him for a future 1st
Most here are believing the hype that 2-8 are all on thesamelevel. Bullshit. I am not their working these guys out, but I guarantee that the GMs that are devoting their months to the draft are finding very real and important reasons to rank. And so the difference between 2 and 6 are likely going to be fairy big. The gm could be wrong, but at the time of the draft I bet that most of them would consider the deferences great. Personally, I like MKG or robinson and also very interested in Drummond. Most would put those guys drafted by 6. The one guy I don't want is fucking beal.
