Blazers @ Spurs GAMETHREAD!

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  1. Freshtown

    Freshtown Well-Known Member

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    I thought they, especially john barry, were very complimentary of us throughout the night.
     
  2. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    I agree, it wasn't nearly as bad as when TNT covers a game.
     
  3. bobf

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    Yikes. I just read the rules. I think we are still 5th:

    Three way ties

    1. Division champion = San Antonio? not sure about that (2-2 vs Houston)
    2. Best record among the three (Houston 5-3 Portland 4-4)
     
  4. rocketeer

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    anyone else notice when this happened in the first quarter that kurt thomas was holding oden keeping him from being able to rotate(which clearly should have been a foul) but jon barry blasted oden for it anyway?
     
  5. mgb

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    Wouldn't that be to determine the top of the three? Then be reg tie breaker of the bottom two? Hope.
     
  6. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    For seeding, division champion matters. Not for HCA. The NBA divorced those two things. Also, I think Houston is leading the division now, after this loss by the Spurs.
     
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  8. bobf

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    So first seeding is determined and then HCA is determined on a matchup by matchup basis?
     
  9. mgb

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    I thought for the first round division champs do get HCA regardless? But in the next round it's the team witht he best records.
     
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    Yeah. Assume Houston didn't exist...San Antonio wins division and Portland ends up tied with them in record. Spurs would get the 4 seed, Portland the 5 seed, but Portland would get HCA against them in the playoffs.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Check it out.

    http://www.nba.com/features/seedingprimer07.html

     
  12. bobf

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    Not accoring to this.

    http://www.nba.com/features/seedingprimer07.html

    "Homecourt advantage for any series is determined by record, not seed. So, it's possible that the 5 seed could have homecourt advantage over the 4, or that the 6 seed could have homecourt advantage over the 3."

    My question. Right now we'd be seeded 4th and San Anatonio 5th. We both have the same record. So what's the next HCA tie-breaker: Division champs or Our record vs the Spurs.
     
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    Division winners are only assured of a top-4 seed, not of HCA. At least, that's my understanding.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The division winners are only guaranteed a top 4 spot. They don't get HCA.

    Like Utah and Houston one year (last year?) where Utah was the division winner, and Houston had HCA.
     
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    i think it's that division champs automatically get a top 4 seed, but don't automatically get home court. last year utah won the division and got the 4th seed, but houston was the 5 seed and had homecourt because they had a better record
     
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    As things stand now, San Antonio isn't the division leader, I don't think. But if they were, they'd get the 4 seed and Portland would get the 5. But Portland would get the HCA. Division championship would break tie for seeding, head-to-head would break tie for HCA.
     
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    Not according to this

    http://sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139397

    Division winners could theoretically have like the 9th best record if their division totally sucked.
     
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    Cool, I think we are much better off playing SA anyway. Based on how we mactch up and the fact that SA is hobbled.

    I think SA might be Div leader. I just checked and their in-division record is 9-6, while Houston is 8-6 if that's how it works since SA is 2-2 vs Houston.
     
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    New Orleans just tanked it against Phoenix. Now two games up on the Hornets.
     
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    Huh? I believe Houston would beat SA and Portland on H2H for the division title and Portland would beat SA on H2H for the 4-5 seed. Since H2H would be telling in both cases, record vs. conference would not be taken into account. Why wouldn't H2H determine HCA? I don't see it, bob.
     

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