Blazers swap Clevelands 2018 first for 2017 first.

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  1. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean? not being snarky, genuinely asking.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Olshey is making deals to look good for his next GM job. Cleveland's best restaurants all have valet parking.
     
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    why couldn't we trade our 2017 pick if we wanted to? We still have our 2018
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Because we didn't have a 1st round pick in 2016. You're not allowed to go two years in a row without a 1st round pick. Now we have two. So, we can trade one and keep one.

    It's referred to as the Ted Stepien rule.

    Edit: Actually, that is incorrect. The Stepien Rule only applies to FUTURE first round picks.

    We can even trade BOTH 2017 picks (ours and CLE's) if we want. Maybe there is a potential trading partner out there that wants two additional first round picks in what is supposed to be a very deep draft.

    BNM
     
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    Sure, but now we can trade A 2017 pick
     
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    Really? Thought the Stepien thing still applied.
     
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    So I am wondering if this move is indeed leading to another move we make or if Cleveland hit us up just to make the deal. We need to grab Nerlens if we can man, he is young and is what we need. Paul milsap would be great to but it looks like all these other teams are gonna go after him, we could swoop in under the radar and grab nerlens if philly wants to hear offers
     
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    I was about to teacher the golden opportunity to correct you for once.

    Some we have CLEs 2017 1st, could we trade our own 2017 and 2018 1st round picks, since we wouldn't be left without 1sts in consecutive years? (We'd have CLEs 2017, POR 2019)
     
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    We should ask for some of Lebron's DNA. We could have an entire team of Lebrons in 18yrs.
     
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    We could indeed move our 2017 and 2018 if we wanted. Of course, since we had Cleveland's 2018, we could have before this deal anyways.
     
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    Yup. Though that ability didn't change with this trade. Before this trade, Portland could have traded their 2017 and 2018 pick and Cleveland's 2018 pick would have kept them in good shape vis a vis the Stepian rule.
     
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    Y'all are reading too much into this. This is a no brainer trade value wise, regardless of anything else. Awesome move.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    It only applies to FUTURE draft picks. Once a draft is over, it no longer applies. There are a lot more details in the CBA FAQ, but here's the pertinent detaiils:

    "Teams are restricted from trading away future first round draft picks in consecutive years. This is known as the "Ted Stepien Rule." Stepien owned the Cavs from 1980-83, and made a series of bad trades (such as the 1982 trade mentioned above) that cost the Cavs several years' first round picks. As a result of Stepien's ineptitude, teams are now prevented from making trades which might leave them without a first round pick in consecutive future years.

    The Stepien rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2012 and 2013 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years, or by giving one team the right to swap picks with the other."

    BNM
     
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    I don't think this really means anything at all. Was always going to be a late pick. A team asked for a favor, didn't hurt us at all, so we said yes. Doubt there needs to be compensation for it. Like someone else said, current picks (from same team) generally better or more valuable than future. In a strong draft, doesn't hurt to have 2.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yeah, I knew it didn't sound right when I typed it, so I looked it up to make sure.

    Yes, as long as there are no provisions, protections or conditions on those picks that would open up the possibility that we won't have a 1st round pick in two consecutive FUTURE drafts.

    BNM
     
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    This helps us. This draft is deep.
     
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    I used to love how you think.

    Not so much right now...
     
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