Exclusive Blazers take Scoot at #3!!! Now what?

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  1. Ed O

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    But they don't take into account that he was 17 when he scored 31 points against professionals, most of whom were more than three years older than he was.
     
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    I meant Tony Parker, not Isiah (he's outside the 30-year window), but if you wanted to expand the window to "40" years to include him ... the numbers are even less favorable for guards.

    And once again, I'll tell you. EVERY single NBA finals champion in the last 30 years had an all-star over 6'6 or 6'7 or something like that, not going through this again. So "more often than not" vs "every single time".

    Also, by saying exceptions I don't mean to discount them and their achievements, they're just the guys who make it not 30 for 30.

    But anyway, I'm done with this topic. I get it. You think small guards are the #1 driver to championships. I don't. We'll agree to disagree.
     
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    Scouts are more wrong than right

    I want him to be great too, I just think he needs to show us first before you call him a future superstar.
     
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    Yes he had a good game.
     
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    Who was the all-star on the Warriors 1st title team taller than 6'6? They had a deep team but there were no stars besides the splash bros.

    Yeah Draymond has now been an all-star, but he wasn't back then.
     
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    if ya know me and my posts ya know by now I don’t get the up-rush and warmth of ya’ll likes in my blood-filled body parts. Don’t wish anyone here ill, but I’m not here for the cock (or ego) strokes. #FAMS # brah
     
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    I was reading a post by TBpup about how many young guys we have on the roster. And I started to think, maybe the Blazers CAN straddle the fence. With all the young guys already here, they don't really need first round picks for a couple years. (And if they can keep drafting guys like Rupert in the second round, they may never need them.)
    So let's use those FRP's to package with Anf and Nurk to upgrade and get guys who fit better. Try to get guys like Claxton or Allen who are only 24 and 25 years old so just in case it's doesn't work with Lillard, we could still be a strong team.
     
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    the glaring problem with that is Chicago. They don't have to give back their hold on Portland's picks cheaply. In fact, I don't think they would. So if Portland is going to trade a 1st for somebody like Jarret Allen, it will likely cost them two first's, and maybe one would be unprotected or at least very lightly protected

    fucking olshey
     
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    The bigger question is, to which team could we trade him--when you subtract the pieces coming back to the Blazers--that would be a championship contender?
     
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    I personally don't love the option, but I can see Ant for DDR plus our pick.
     
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    I'm sure there are others but if the Nets send us Claxton, Dinwiddie (expiring), Harris (expiring), the rights to Clowney and Whitehead... they can also send us up to 7 future FRPs and that would be for Dame and Nurk.

    It leaves them with Dame, Bridges, Cam Johnson (RFA), DFS, Nurk, Royce O'Neal, Ben Simmons, Patty, bird rights to Seth and most likely the TPMLE. I think that team could definitely contend especially if Dame can have a positive impact on Simmons.
     
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    I will say I like those 3 young players, Claxton, Clowney, and Whitehead much better than future unknown draft picks. If Dame decides he wants to leave, Brooklyn is the better option.
     
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    c'mon now...the Nets are not going to essentially send out 9 first round picks for Dame. Blazers will be lucky to get half of that. And I'd imagine that the two players Brooklyn just drafted will be signed and playing in summer league before Dame makes any decision

    people are working too hard to significantly oversell the virtues of trading Dame and/or the turnaround time of a rebuild
     
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    I’d rather take Herro, Jaime Jaquez, Jovic and multiple 1st
     
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    for fuck sakes, they don't have multiple 1st's
     
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    You are so emotional LOL
     
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    The Grizzlies drafted Ja Morant in 2019.

    Two seasons later (2021-2022) the Grizzlies earned the #2 seed in the Western Conference.
    The Grizzlies repeated that achievement last season.

    This may be the ceiling for turning a team around after a star is drafted, but when was the last time the Blazers had the #2 seed in back-to-back seasons?

    The Scoot Blazers wouldn't have to do anything crazy to match the achievements of the Dame Blazers.
     
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    My guess is that wouldn't be close to the package offered, but a decent try.
     

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