We didn't trade down in 2012. Or 2013. Or any other year after that for first round picks (that I recall). We're thinking of doing this for Jerami Grant?
Yeah, I think that's the jist of it. I think a lot of us just don't want to outright trade the seventh pick for Grant and are hoping for a much better outcome. Picking at 13 or hopefully at 9 wouldn't be bad when contrasted with not picking at all.
Hello. I voted other. I did not see a trade up option. I am warming up to trying to trade uo to five to get Murray Nd using our 2025 and Bledsoe to go after grant. Dame/Simons/Johnson Hart/Simons/Johnson Murray/Nas Grant/Winslow Nurk/Watford ?? Edit: I have lost track of our roster! I skipped Keon and NAS!!!
Well if we don't think Sochan/Eason/Duren is still on the board by 13 I'm a lot less excited about that trade. FFS don't trade it for Jerami Grant mein GOT!
Well if rumors are correct we're very high on Dieng. I could see us trading back to a place where we can get Grant and Dieng and I don't know enough to know if that would be a waste of the 7th pick. I would like to see us trade back to the Spurs at 9 and 25, draft Sochan at 9 and get Grant for 25 and if any future first is invloved it should only be our 2028 which I believe will be available draft night.
Sochan is an intriging prospect. Defense looks awesome. But his offense looks poor in college. So I'd expect he is a worse version of Aminu or Harkless his first few years in the league. Maybe eventually his offense improves. Maybe not. Seems like more of a mid first round prospect than what you hope for at #7. I don't see Dame or Cronin going with drafting a project like this. They want to win now. They'd probably prefer trading him for a veteran, even Grant. I'd think it makes more sense to use our pick, maybe eventually trade Dame and rebuild.
"Sochan reads the floor well on the move and understands where his teammates should be. He also seems to be able to process very quickly when the help leaves his teammate. If he gets by his guy and sees another defender sliding over to help, he very quickly processes which teammate the help came from, and hits that teammate with a good pass. One more strength for Sochan is his ability to handle the basketball. He's capable of taking the ball off the rim on the defensive end and initiating the break, attacking the closeout hard in the halfcourt, or creating something out of structure when the offensive flow breaks down. " These are comments about a guy who just turned 19.
His offensive production is pretty average at the college level. How do you think it will be next year at the much more difficult NBA level? Long term I agree with you. The kid is 19 and has the tools to be a star. But my comment was in regards to next season+. He's likely going to be a very minus offensive player. Your kidding yourself if you think he has a high chance at 20 to make the kind of impact Dame and Cronin want right away. Look how many years it took an older Kawhi to contribute. He's a kid. Dame wants grown men to help him now. We can get excited about his potential and possibilities. I wish that was the future this franchise was focused on. Instead we're doing this doomed stupid attempt to contend now.
I'll just say it again, I would really like to trade back to 9 and 25, take Sochan at 9 and get Grant with 25 and as little more draft capital as is possible. For me if we did that, got a good backup C and a legit backup PG who would be OK getting very few minutes unless there was an injury to Dame or Ant, then we will have put the best team around Dame that he's had in his career. I really love Sochan though. He is aggressive on both ends of the court, he does everything we would need next to Grant and Nurk, he shot 58% from two and has a nice looking three point shot that goes in when he's open. I don't think he's a developmental project as far as if he can have a positive impact on getting us wins as a starter from day one. If the other starters are Dame, Ant, Grant and Nurk then Sochan is ready made to be the role player we need next to him... the developmental process with Sochan is if he'll be a defense first role player that keeps teams honest on offense or if he'll be a star.
Sochan if we don’t trade up for Keegan He’s going to be a smart and extremely irritating defensive player like CP3
If the Blazers can't trade for a superstar the next best option is to rely on the draft and be patient. No, I don't expect Sochan to be really good or maybe even good in his first season or two. But he fills a position of biggest need (PF / backup C) so should get plenty of playing time if the Blazers draft him.
I agree that would be best. Do you think Dame or Cronin will be ok with that though? I don't think they will.
Wouldn't Dame/Cronin prefer to get Grant as you say but trade the 9th/Sochan/etc for a second veteran? I just can't see the Blazers bringing back Dame to try and win now along with a rookie lottery pick.
I think the Blazers will have many good options on offense. What changed the direction and culture of the team was more of an emphasis on defense and ball movement. I know it's best to shoot for the stars with the number 7 pick, but need is also important if that player is going to get playing time and develop.
My fave probably would be OG for #7 and TPE (or we could use Bledsoe and save TPE) so more incentive as Tor cuts their cap by around 18 mil, don't know if Raps are interested enough in anyone at 7 that they might do it, from comments I have seen on trade boards it is rated a pretty "fair trade"
