Blazers want to bring Pritchard back now?

Good questions, but I'm not sure that there's an easy answer to them. I suppose that with any team owner there are pluses and minuses, and I don't mean to imply that I think that PA is above criticism for his actions relating to the GM decisions that have gone on over the past few years. What I do disagree with is the seeming automatic assumption I've seen in many posts around here (yours only to a lesser extent) that just because we don't know the reasons for KP's and Cho's firings, that valid reasons don't exist. Like everybody else, I'm watching how the Blazers handle this new GM search. I think that they've used up their allowances for getting it right. If they screw it up this time, you won't see me defending PA & crew on the next go around.

 

My position, to be clear, was never that valid reasons didn't exist to fire Cho. Not knowing the entire picture, I could never make such a claim. My position was that valid basketball reasons didn't appear to exist, based on the actual output of the front office. A one year tenure, based entirely on performance reasons, should only happen due to gross incompetence. Nothing grossly incompetent happened as far as personnel decisions, in my estimation, and the moves that we did see I felt were, in total, positive.

In any case, valid personal reasons could exist, but Allen seems to have personality conflicts a lot. It's certainly within his rights to hire and fire based on personal relationship, but if (and I do stress "if," because I am not suggesting this is certainly true) he just struggles in general to maintain civil, happy relations with his GM, it bodes badly for us fans.

 

Paul Allen is bragging about being the #12 organization in the NFL according to a sports website. That's him, in a nutshell. We're just outside the top 37%. We're just above mediocre.

Woo Hoo!!

 

It's not an assumption that Allen hired Cho to be GM, wrote positively about Cho in his book, and then fired the guy in less than a year. That is a fact. I don't really care what the reasons are, as we have no way of knowing them. All reports say that Cho was not expecting the firing at all, though, so that would speak to me more of a Miller/Allen communication problem with their GM, than any issue with Cho.

I'm dealing in facts, re: firings of GMs. I don't care if he hasn't fired Larry Miller. Miller's primary role seems to be Defender of All that Is Paul Allen in the media these days. He's basically Allen's little pet who Paul sends out to attack enemies, real or imagined, on his command.

 

Luke Babbbitt happened.

 

Paul Allen hasn't fired Larry Miller in almost 4 years. Now that's stability!!!

 

The Bob Whitsitt era was the most stable.

Maybe bring back Trader Bob?

 

I'm sure this being an owner is all jsut a walk in the park and if you were given teh chance you could do much better than PA.

But give the guy a break if he want to celebrate that a franchise he owns is voted in the top half of the league when it comes to organization.

Reading your posts, PA is incapable of running an organization that is even in the top 2/3rd. You sit here from the cheap seats and question, grill, ridicule and insulted PA and claim what a terrible sports owner he is. And how funny is it as you hate on him for being a terrrible owner, fox sports recognizes one of his organization as #12 in NFL.

Kind of socks your rant right in the gut

 

Then Allen's the dumbass for firing a guy right before allowing him to "run" your draft.

Think about that. Paul Allen tells KP he's fired before the draft, but he wants KP to be in the draft room, KP agrees to do it, and as a reward Paul Allen is apparently doing his best to blackball KP from the NBA.

What a vile and petty man.

 

We're #12!! We're #12!!

Portland would probably rate in the top half as well in the NBA, mainly due to Allen's money. How that leads to championships, or even consistent wins in the playoffs, eludes me at this point.

I have to laugh at the guy getting slammed for his unnecessary Tweet and having Miller attack Pritchard, who did nothing except be named in a rumor, and then the next day bragging about how great his 8-8 football team is in the eyes of FoxSports.com. Is he losing it?

ETA - the Seabags were 7-9 and have no QB. Awesome!!!

 

If I owned a organization, I would very happy with that. Mock it all you want, reality you will never be able to say your NFL organization is ranked #12. Why hate on a guy who is showing some pride in ownership. I'm guessing no matter what PA says or does, you will twist it into some mocking statement to show PA is a joke (like this thing released by fox sports). But in the end we all know who the joke is right?

 

Gee, really?

Clue for you: 99.99999% of posters on this or any board will never play in the NBA, be a player in the NBA, coach in the NBA, be a GM in the NBA, be a trainer in the NBA, answer the phones for an NBA owner, etc. etc.

In fact, in all of my years of posting, HCP is literally the only consistent member of any on-line community, with any franchise, that I know of who actually has more than a peripheral connection to the teams they post about.

If your argument is 'well, you'll never do it, so you're a joke', then doesn't that make all of us jokes, and by proxy, the entire idea of posting about the NBA, or debating anything related to the NBA, a joke as well? We have an owner goofing off in Africa instead of finding a legitimate GM 3 weeks prior to the draft, and dropping by in France to watch "videos" of only God and Paul know what terrible Euro he'll fall in love with next.

 

It's not me who needs a clue. The joke isn't that people who will never be in that position are telling people in that position what to do. The joke is you jumping all over PA and making these wild claims about him that you in particular probably shouldn't.


The one I find funniest is you point to the fact that PA didn't even keep Cho for over a year to show how irrational he must be. You went so far as to say you don't care what the reasons, fact is he fired Cho less than a year in. Dude, you can't even keep a screen name for more than a year. Does that show you are irrational? I don't care the reasons for the change fact is you were papag then you switched to BGrantFan and swore you were not papag, then in less than a year you changed to papag. Fair for people to assume you are irrational?

Then we get into the whole petty thing and what you think makes him petty, but hopefully you see where that is going . . .

 

I'm not telling Paul Allen what to do. I'm giving my opinion on what he has done. What wild claims am I making about him? Please share those with me, that is if you can get all of PA's poopstains off of your nose first.

I never swore that I wasn't PapaG. Stop making things up. I've had 2 screen names in 12 years; PapaG, and then BGrantFan when BenDavis503 went psycho on me.

Also, haven't you had about 4 screen names in the past 6 years? You're busting on a guy for 1 name change in 12 years, and you've changed yours how many times? What a foolish thing to post. Are you a fool?

I think what he has done is petty. I think sending out a Tweet about KP, and having Larry Miller deny a dumb rumor during interviews, is the sign of a petty man. That's called an OPINION.

Where is this going? I have a guy who changes screen names more than Paul Allen changes GMs bashing me for one name change in 12 years, and then you take up Paul Allen's defense like Larry Allen would after a night of drinking tequila.

You're a trip, dude.

 

I really don't give a shit what you think about anything troll. The others can feel free to see that other posters recall the same broadcasts as a coraboration... or not. I've sited all along that I'm going on memory, but it's not like I'm an established POS liar like say... BGrantFan

STOMP

 

Let's get into this name change shall we. You tripped out, changed names and pretended to be someone else. Then in blink you are back to papag. (Another irony is much of the board thought you were the one being petty over the whole Nate pointing a gun at you and fear of being personally attacked.)

Vs me who changes my screen name when the person I am using was fired, traded, their contract expired or they are injured to the point of being a non-factor. Difference is I don't pretend to be someone else. I know you see the difference there even if you won't admit it.

My point papag, is that for you to make accusations that Allen is irrationale, vile and petty based on nothing but your own assumptions of what is going on in the fromt office seems more projection on your part than good analysis of the situation.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/154733-Question!?highlight=papag bgrantfan

http://sportstwo.com/threads/157096-Where-the-Fuck-is-Maris?highlight=papag bgrantfan

I found this post the funniest (was it wierd to talk about yourself in the 3rd person?)
BGrantFan
Ah, yes. I got confused with who I am supposed to be. The PapaG guy must have really made an impact here. I checked out his profile today and some posts. Seems a bit of a nutter, but wow, that BenDavis503 guy seems to be a veritable psycho. Oh, the drama!



Go Blazers!

 

If me asking you for a link to validate your hearsay testimony makes me a troll, then I guess I'm a troll.

I haven't seen anybody else corroborate your memory, and I listened to the same shows that you did at the time. I did read SlyPokerDog say that he had heard John Gabriel was the guy behind the trade, but he also did qualify it as being second- or third-hand information. I do not recall hearing Pritchard giving Patterson the credit for making those trades. I remember him as saying it was a team effort, but he never specifically said that Patterson closed the deals. Patterson said that to Brian Berger, amoung others.

You were treating you memory as fact. I'm sorry if some people don't accept every wise word you type at face value.

Tell us more stories about rec league ball, and how it relates to stamina in the NBA. Those always gave that BGrantFan guy a good giggle.

 

LOL

I basically admitted it right here, in the thread you quoted.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/154733-Question!?p=2268558&viewfull=1#post2268558

You said I "swore" that I wasn't PapaG. That never happened. Those that could see through it PM'd me and shared in the laughs, and Ed and Minstrel knew all along. Those that are apparrently dumber than others were surprised at the Big Reveal!

:MARIS61:

I thought that was funny! I even got some PMs and Rep for that post from some posters.

I'm sorry that you feel bad because I think your hero Paul Allen is borderline incompetent in terms of having a clue how to run an NBA team. I'm sure whoever BGrantFan was does as well!

 

post #59 in this thread troll

you are not people, you are the board troll... lurking and hoping to find something to argue about. Throwing out ridiculous crap in hopes of your precious nightly back and forth. It's a tired and pathetic song and dance

I identified my memory as such. Mediocre Man recalled the same exact thing. Do you think we're in cahoots trying to spread credit among Blazer management of the past? What in the world would be our motivation for such deviousness?

BGrantFan is a pathetic POS liar

STOMP

 

I'll accept your apology (from both of you). . . as papag as it was.

I know going into this who I'm dealing with and got to admit that sometimes I want it. You bring life to the board and that is a good thing. You know that name change is going to haunt you forever and should go down as the stupidist board action in S2 history . . . give up on the you were to cool and smart for the ones that wanted to give a newbie the benefit of the doubt. Anyways, as always, I digress with you.

You piss off a lot of people, me included, but I'm glad your part of this board. We will tangle again nutter!