Politics 'Blue Card' Bill

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  1. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    All dairy products will grow astronomically including yogurt.
     
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  2. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Oh no, I really don't care. Gas prices and other stuff affects me more. Food? Not so much.

    If a head of romaine is 5 bucks, doesn't matter to me. 10 bucks? It lasts a week for me, big deal. I have a low carbon footprint so day to day expenses are low.
     
  3. Spud147

    Spud147 Mercy Mercy

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    Do you eat in restaurants? What about Lattes? It's all going up.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    I usually do my coffee at home. Cold brew is my favorite.

    There are many countries without cheap mexican labor and its not so bad, price wise. Where is there $20 a gallon milk or places that are double the price of America?
     
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    $20 gallon is just pulled out of my head, the point I was trying to make is the price will go up exponentially... and that will have a huge ripple effect. It will increase the price of baked goods, overhead in coffee shops, cheap fast food (say good bye to the dollar menu), and so on. Some people would be willing to pay more but others will be priced out. With less demand you need less bakers, restaurant workers, baristas, etc. You also need less milk delivery drivers both from the dairy to the processing plant and to retail customers. You will also need to increase public assistance to pay for food stamps and school lunches...................
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    So every country absent cheap mexican labor has prices exponentially higher than the US?
     
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    actually they do....people who haven't lived overseas much or at all think America is the whole fuckin' world....there are Mexicans and central americans and south americans all over the world.....you think Hondurans haven't escaped to Columbia or Argentina or Dominica? Canada is a very friendly country to immigrate to if you have about 150k in the bank...you get fast tracked there. Taiwanese have been moving there for a long time. Same with Greeks, Lebanese, etc....Canada has lots of immigrants. They have also taken in refugees...just like we used to. Non of this is a threat to your livelihood though...unless you plan a career mucking out dairy barns
     
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    Talking about cheap labor. Automation will make many people useless. Its shortsighted to think that having a large number of unskilled labor in the country will end well when that happens.
     
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    Other countries don't have to deal with the FDA. Maybe they don't have the same food safety requirements and they may have the benefit of cheaper labor from other countries. We also have a massive country land mass wise and have to get dairy products out to rural areas. I don't know which countries you're specifically referring to so it's hard for me to say. I'm definitely not an expert of the international dairy industry. I do know that we've seen dairy farmers going out of business out here quite a bit in recent years because their profit margins are already so low.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Canada doesnt have a massive land mass? How much is milk there?
     
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    Manufacturing sure but corporate agriculture pretty much "weeded" out as much human labor as it could about a century ago.
     
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    Well I don't know, again, not an international dairy expert so you're going to have to do that research for yourself. Your board character's arguments were kind of amusing at first but it's kind of jumped the shark and not clever anymore. I'm so bored with your content. You'll be replace by artificial intelligence someday, unless you're already a bot.
     
  13. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Canada is 73% milk.

    barfo
     
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  14. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    All you needed to add was that I'm a russian troll.
     
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    Many people are already useless.

    Right now, however, unemployment is extremely low and the likelihood of any of us wanting a job picking lettuce is very low. So maybe it's better to let the migrants do it than to let it rot in the fields.

    You actually want the current situation, if you are worried about mass joblessness. When the robots come and displace us, we can displace the illegal immigrant lettuce pickers and dairy farmers. If there are no non-citizens, we have to fight each other for the few remaining jobs.

    Oh, and you're a russian troll.

    barfo
     
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    There is a push for a living wage due to the threat of automation. But look, the more people here, the less you get brotha!
     
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    We'll just have to become cannibals, it's the only way to resolve this.

    barfo
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    More likely China commiting mass genocide.
     
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    if you like frozen milk...sure it's like saying Siberia is part of a massive country..it is, but nothing grows there...dairy cows eat a lot of food
     
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    When there's no work, unskilled labor migrates south...they don't want to winter in Minnesota usually...many dairy farmers from Washington state are moving their farms to Mexico now so they can turn a profit...
     

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